Lily lives in Harry (was: Dobby/ Betrayal/ Evil!Voldemort/ Harry as 'resilient'

grace701 grace701 at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 17 04:35:18 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 53864

 
Catlady wrote: 
> Here is my oft-repeated theory: I think Lily was able, with her 
> magic, to put an image of herself in her baby's mind, that would be 
> like an 'imaginary mum' (by analogy with 'imaginary friend') who 
> would cuddle Harry and tell him that he's a good kid who doesn't 
> deserve Dursley abuse and tell him about how decent people behave, 
> thus being that one caring adult ("example of goodness" in previous 
> paragraph) said to be necessary to even a 'resilient' child's 
> survival of serious abuse... I kind of think Lily used her last 
> magic to put this image in his head intentionally, instead of using 
> her last magic in one last attempt to escape Voldemort. That is the 
> heroic self-sacrifce that canon credits her, accepting her own 
> death because it was more important to her to give this protection 
> (from abusive Dursleys) of her love. I don't know why she would do 
> that if she really believed that he would be dead seconds after she 
> was, so I am left sympathetic to the theories that Harry survived 
> AK because of some magic that had been done on him (presumably by 
> Lily) or that he had been born with. 
 
> When Harry resisted the Imperius Curse, the Curse's Moody-voice in 
> his head told him to jump up on the desk, and "another voice had 
> awoken in the back of his brain. Stupid to do, really, said the 
> voice." I believe that that other voice is what's left of the 
> image-Lily after all these years; she doesn't appear often, she 
> appears as Harry's voice instead of her own, but she still is 
> caring for Harry -- and still has free will.

> In addition, so far we've always seen Harry wondering and trying to 
> find out about his father, and not about his mother. Some say 
> that's a plot device because JKR is saving some big surprise about 
> Lily, and some say it's normal because Harry is 11 to 14 so far, 
> puberty and adolescence, and much more concerned about a male image 
> to identify with. But *I* say that he doesn't search so much for 
> Lily because, unknown to himself, he already has her with him.


I had a little theory, but I hadn't really wanted to post it, that 
perhaps since JKR repeats consistently that Harry has his mother's 
eyes, it is because he will see through her what happened that night 
she and James died.  Since you say she lives in him, now this idea 
seems to make more sense to me.  Perhaps, he may even feel what she 
felt that night and know what she was thinking in terms of what she 
had to do to protect Harry and magic she had to conjure up to do so.

I can't agree with the your opinion on why he doesn't search for Lily 
because she is in him.  She maybe in him and he may feel the love she 
has for him.  BUT he (and so do we) need to know more about her 
background:

1) Who were Lily's friends in Hogwarts (at least I'd like to know who 
she hung out with)?
2) What kind of personality did she have? Hermione's? ;)
3) Is she an orphan?
4) Are her parents and Petunia squibs? 
5) Is she a descendant of any Founding member of Hogwarts?
6) Did Lily "hate" Petunia as Petunia "hated" her? etc...

She's more of a mystery than James is only because we haven't met 
anyone close to her.  James had "3" bestfriends: Sirius, Lupin and 
Pettigrew and they (Sirius and Lupin) *never* speak of Lily and 
James.  And you know what I'm getting pretty tired of that.  How can 
they not give Harry insight on his own parents?  No matter how 
horrible the thought maybe for them to recall a lost a friend, at 
least give Harry the opportunity to get to know his parents.  I find 
that to be pretty selfish, but then again Sirius is on the run and 
Lupin was a teacher so I'm sure he didn't want personal feelings to 
get in the way of a teacher-student relationship.  Thank God OoTP is 
coming out. I hope some Lily questions will be answered.

Greicy 





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