Who conjures the Prongs Patronus?

grace701 grace701 at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 21 15:23:04 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 54059

Martin Soilleux-Cardwell wrote:
>However, I would like to go back to my initial point, if I may. 
>There is only one person who knows who cast the first Patronus, and 
>that is JKR. Harry *thinks* it was himself because no other 
>information that he has fits the events, and the only alternative 
>(which I think he was 'hoping' for initially as he made his way 
>around the lake) was that his father had cast it.

>I agree that Harry1 saw a Patronus as the Dementors closed in and 
>agree that Harry2 was in fact on the other side of the lake at the 
>time. But if you consider that another person *did* cast Patronus1, 
>and for reasons of his own did not want Harry2 to discover him, and 
>hid/fled, then Harry2 more or less has to come to the conclusion 
>that Harry1 saw Harry2 cast Patronus1 and so Harry2 then in fact 
>casts it.
 
>Am I making sense?
 
>I think readers assume Harry2 cast Patronus1 because Harry2 assumes 
>it. But the possibility exists, and the facts we are given in the 
>book don't contradict that possibility, that it *was* someone else 
>that Harry1 saw cast Patronus1.
 
>Personally I am quite happy for Harry2 to have cast it, but when I 
>read that chapter first time around I have to admit there was a 
>lump in my throat and a faint hope that Harry might encounter his 
>dead father. My own father died many years ago and the wish to get 
>the chance to see him again is always present. JKR has mentioned in 
>interviews that only some dead wizards come back as ghosts and why 
>this is will be revealed in a later book. So I am keeping an open 
>mind that it may just have been James by the lake after all... 
 
>(1) Newton's and Einstein's laws do not always apply when you are a 
> Wizard.



Martin, you are making sense to me, a lot of sense!  I wasn't 
confused anymore about the Time Turner Paradox, but my question 
always still remained how did Harry1 survive to save Harry2.  So I 
am adopting your theory, which I have thought of, but you made it 
REAL to me.  That James, in fact, was there, but disappear when 
Harry was around.  Ghosts do seem to know what's happening so why 
wouldn't James know what was happening that night as well.

Greicy





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