Fawkes
bwerschkun
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Sat Mar 22 22:29:49 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 54141
On the question whether Fawkes could be the animagus form of Godric
Gryffindor, Martin wrote:
"This raises issues of how much of the animal does a wizard become
when in animagus form. (SNIP) Clearly an animagus bird would be able
to fly, an animagus fish to breathe under water (Krum-shark in GoF)
but what other powers? Could an animagus phoenix effectively become
immortal if s/he stayed in phoenix form for ever?"
and Sarah replied:
"I think it's at least possible. (SNIP) As for animal/wizard powers
bleeding into each other, I seem to recall that Sirius retained some
of his canine qualities while in human form, though I can't back that
up without the book here with me."
Now me:
On this issue we can look at the example of Peter Pettigrew and his
rat animagus: At the beginning of PoA, when the kids are in the
magical creatures shop in Diagon Alley, we learn that rats commonly
only live for about 3 years. Yet, it later turns out that Pettigrew
was able to live in his rat form for 12 years. In fact, Lupin even
uses this as an argument when he is still in the process of convincing
Ron that "Scabbers" was, indeed, "Peter". Hence, I assume that the
animagus Pettigrew not sharing his animal form's usual mortality also
means that a phoenix animagus would not share his animal's
immortality...
As for Sirius retaining some of his canine qualities while in human
form: I also can't back it up, right now, but I think the reference is
more of a general nature, along the lines of "resembling" the dog.
This is also mentioned for Pettigrew, that even as a human something
of the rat was still "lingering" in his face. I take this as an
expression of the animal form of an animagus reflecting the respective
human's personality (which we know it does from a Rowling interview).
Another angle on the Fawkes/Godric connection was introduced by
erisedstraeh2002:
"I think there is strong support in canon for the theory that Fawkes
was Godric Gryffindor's phoenix when Gryffindor was alive:
(1) Fawkes is scarlet and gold, the colors of Gryffindor House.
Harry's wand contains one of Fawkes' feathers as its magical core, and
red and gold sparks fly from the end of his wand the first time he
waves it."
Me:
However, Voldemort's wand also contains one of Fawkes' feathers and
when he and Harry duel at the end of GoF, there is green light
emerging from Voldemort's wand, while red light is from Harry's... I
have always wondered about this: why does Voldemort have a wand with a
feather from Fawkes? I mean, "the wand choses the wizard" and Fawkes
is so closely related to Dumbledore and also appears to have some
special connection with Harry, not to mention how he repeatedly comes
to Harry's rescue against Voldemort - why would Voldemort, the heir of
Slytherin and deadly enemy of both Dumbledore and Harry be chosen for
a wand containing a part of Fawkes?
Another question that has been occupying my mind for a while might
have been discussed before, but I must admit I am too lazy to spend
hours searching the exceedingly voluminous archives.... What is the
story with the name "Fawkes"? I mean, there are these examples of
characters' names being important and something of a give-away
throughout the series (Remus Lupin, Sirius Black, "Sybil" Trelawney,
Professor Sprout, just to name a few), I have difficulties to believe
that a name like "Fawkes" should be chosen accidentally but also can't
quite see where it's heading at. Many of you, who are British, will
know this much better, but as far as I know Guy Fawkes was an English
rebell a few hundred years ago who tried to throw over the ruling
powers by setting fire to the parliament (or was it some government
building?) but didn't succeed and "Guy Fawkes Day" is still being
celebrated in England with bonfires as an expression of people being
glad that they didn't lose their parliamentary system. Is that about
right? So is the name Fawkes, as a mere symbol of "fire", only
referring to the phoenix' ability to die and be reborn from flames? Or
is there a deeper meaning implying rebellious and possibly destructive
powers that the phoenix Fawkes is somehow connected to? And, being
Dumbledore's pet, what would that mean for the story behind
Dumbledore? I feel as if this was all pointing to some dualism in the
sense of good and bad being two sides of the same coin (is this an
existing expression in English?) and so forth, but at the same time
both these sides, i.e. Voldemort and Harry, must be incorporated in
Fawkes, because he gave the feathers for both their wands, and Fawkes
belongs to Dumbledore, whom we know as the personification of the good
side. I find this all very confusing, yet intriguing, and hope that
same of you are able and willing to help me sort it out!
My second-ever-post to this list (the first one was about one year
ago).
Barbara
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