SHIP: Re: Who is the boy? and Why I hate the H/G Ship

[grace701]

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Pippin wrote:
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> he doesn't need to be romantically involved with Hermione to 
> become closer to her. In fact it might make it more difficult.
> 
> Harry's cravings for Cho certainly didn't make it easier for him to 
> connect with her. If Harry starts developing similar feelings for 
> Hermione, they're bound to make him uncomfortable.  He might 
> fight shy of them and start being as tetchy with her as Ron is. 
> Now that's an H/H relationship I could believe in, though I have 
> this feeling it's not what H/H'ers have in mind <g>


I would actually love to see Harry and Hermione have it out.  The 
only person we ever get to see arguing with Hermione is Ron.  Harry 
just doesn't speak with her at all with he's mad at her, like when he 
didn't speak to her in PoA and even then I didn't think he was *that* 
mad.  I got the impression Ron was instigating and being that Ron is 
his favorite bestfriend, imo, he stood by Ron.


Pippin wrote:
> I would say Harry does care deeply about Hermione, but he 
> expresses this by being willing to take risks on her behalf 
> physically rather than  emotionally. We're not really sure whether 
> Harry *can* give or accept love in a more direct way--that's part 
> of the suspense. 
> 
> Harry's deepest feelings are still very much kept to himself. The 
> swiftness with which he befriends Hagrid, Ron and Sirius 
> implies that he does indeed have a pent up longing to connect, 
> but so far the reader has far more access to Harry's feelings 
> than even his closest friends. Unless there have been heartfelt 
> conversations "offstage" (and that's as creaky a device as any 
> god from the machine) Hermione and Ron don't know about 
> Harry hearing his parents' deaths when the Dementors are near, 
> they don't know that he's known all along about Voldemort's 
> wand core, or that he daydreams about playing World Cup 
> Quidditch or has nightmares about Voldemort laughing. When it 
> comes to emotional knowledge of Harry, Ron and Hermione are 
> more on a par with Neville and Ginny than they are with us.


I, also, noticed he still isn't very open with all his feelings.  And 
it's all because of those stupid Dursleys.  They've made him shut off 
from the rest of the world.  He speaks about things when he's sure 
that no one will judge him or when he doesn't have a choice, at least 
I think.  Thank you for pointing out that he has never mentioned 
anything about hearing his mother when the dementors got close to 
him, etc.  Did he tell them that the Sorting Hat wanted to put him in 
Slytherin? I don't think so, but I can't remember.
 

> Much as I would like to see this change, I don't see Hermione as 
> being the catalyst, even if Harry does develop romantic feelings 
> for her. Harry's never going to feel safe sharing his feelings with 
> her until  she stops trying to improve him.  If she did that now, 
> it might cost him his life--he really needs her more as a coach 
> than a confidante at this point. 

I never got the impression that Hermione was trying to improve 
Harry.  Helping Harry to better himself, yes, but not improve.  
Improving sounds like a Flitwick telling Harry and Neville to improve 
on the Summoning Charm.  Hermione is at a different level, she's his 
friend.  I think she sees potentiality in Harry and Ron and would 
like for them to try the best they can.  I know she's bossy, it's in 
her nature. At first, in PS/SS, it's utterly annoying, but now as 
she's grown close to Ron and Harry it's more than just trying to boss 
them around.  Like I said, she sees more in them than they do so 
she's trying to help them out in a way.  Wasn't she proud of Harry 
when he told her (lied to her, actually) about finding out what that 
egg was about, *all by himself*, for the Second Task?  Her attitude 
seemed, imo, like, "See Harry you can do it!  It wasn't that hard was 
it?!  I knew you'd figure it out!"  I'm assuming when you 
meant "coach", you meant help Harry out and there is nothing wrong 
with that.  But she is his bestfriend, therefore, *IS also* his 
confidante.  If not he wouldn't tell her anything. 

> That's the one edge Ginny has. 
> For all that we know so little about her, we do know this: it's 
> extremely unlikely that she thinks anything about Harry Potter 
> needs to be improved.

I didn't know that.  I know as little of Ginny's intentions for Harry 
as Hermione's for Krum.  We'll never know until JKR gives us the 
scoop, hopefully, in OoP.  

Greicy, H/H forever ;)