Graveyard scene

annemehr annemehr at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 27 16:28:57 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 54445

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Kathryn Cawte" <kcawte at b...> 
wrote:
>  A friend of mine and I were just discussing the fact that whenever 
Harry
> has to face Voldemort he always has to do it alone (does anyone 
think that's
> significant btw?) when she pointed something out I hadn't noticed. 
In the
> graveyard scene in GoF harry and Cedric arrive in the graveyard, 
they see
> someone we soon discover is Peter carrying a bundle, which turns out 
to be
> Voldemort, Harry hears a high pitched voice (Voldemort) say 'kill 
the spare'
> and then another voice (presumably Peter) say 'Avada Kedavra'. So 
someone
> other than Voldemort cast the spell and yet Cedric's ghost emerges 
from
> *Voldemort's* wand later due to the priori incantum effect. So why 
is Peter
> casting the spell with Voldemort's wand?
> I don't remember whether they said if his wand was found along with 
his
> remains after his presumed death but I would assume somewhere in 
Knockturn
> Alley or somewhere similar there is somewhere he could get a wand on 
the
> black market and I doubt he'd have wanted to go a whole year without 
one -
> so why is he using Voldemort's wand? We already know that using 
another
> wizard's wand isn't as effective as using your own.
> 
> K

Annemehr:
Thanks for asking this, as in thinking about it, a few good 
possibilities for what really happened have just come to my mind.

Okay, I think there is a wide consensus that, when Peter fled to 
Voldemort after the end of PoA, he carried Voldemort's wand with him. 
 But where did Peter get the wand?

Some have theorized that Hagrid picked up the wand at Godric's Hollow 
when he picked up Harry, and kept it in his house all those years 
until Scabbers found it while hiding out there during PoA.  I doubt 
this, and believe (just from my impressions of Hagrid's character) 
that if Hagrid had picked up the wand, he would have given it to 
Dumbledore along with baby Harry.

I think that, on that fatal night when Peter betrayed the Potters, he 
either went to Godric's Hollow *with* Voldemort (most likely, I 
think), or was the first one to get there after Voldemort was 
vaporized because, as the Secret Keeper, he was the only other one who 
knew all along where the Potters were.  He was the first one to see 
the destruction, but Voldemort was already gone (not wishing to hang 
around in case any of his enemies appeared to finish him off) or 
unable at this point to make his presence known.  Peter found the wand 
and then hid it somewhere and confronted Sirius.

Okay, fast forwarding to Peter's escape in PoA.  Before Peter left for 
Albania, he picked up Voldemort's wand and carried it with him.

[A side note: presumably, when an animagus transforms, his clothes and 
whatever he has in his pockets -- SUCH AS A WAND -- transform with 
him.  So *why* doesn't Peter still have his own wand?  The only 
explanation I can think of is that the force he put into blasting 
apart the street when he faked his death shattered his wand also.  It 
seems unlikely he would have abandoned it as part of the death-faking 
scenery as he didn't bother leaving a set of clothes or anything else 
-- why abandon your most valuable tool?]

So, Peter was travelling to Albania with Voldemort's wand.  Why didn't 
he get another one for himself?  I think because it would have been 
too risky -- he was supposed to be dead and couldn't be seen.  He did 
go to that pub in Albania and it almost ended in disaster.  It is even 
possible that that was going to *be* his first attempt at buying a 
wand, in that village.  Also, between him and Voldemort, he was the 
only one who could wield a wand to begin with, so there was no 
immediate need to risk trying to procure another.  Even after the 
ugly baby body was made, one wand was sufficient, so Voldemort 
probably thought it prudent to leave it at that.  I presume that the 
next time we see Peter, a wand will have been provided for him one way 
or another.

Finally, I have just had a thought about the question of how did 
Dumbledore or anyone else know that the Potters had been killed?  My 
theory is based upon the assumption that the house in Godric's Hollow 
had been the Potters' house for some time before the Secret Keeping 
spell was cast, so that many people knew where it was.  I think the SK 
spell, which hides a secret inside a single soul, must have made 
everyone else magically *forget* where the Potters lived.  If this is 
true, then when Peter divulged the secret and the spell was broken, 
perhaps the people who knew about Godric's Hollow gradually began to 
remember and thus knew something was wrong, and the word spread.

Two objections:
1) Sirius said that he knew something was wrong when he went to check 
on Peter, *not* because he suddenly remembered where the Potters 
lived.
2) It seems strange that people would *gradually* remember where the 
Potters lived, but if it was instantaneous, I would think that a lot 
of people would have apparated to Godric's Hollow very quickly and 
would have caught Voldemort (and whoever else may have been there).

All these topics for speculation make me sincerely hope that JKR will 
some day come out with a series of short stories to explain some of 
these things that happened outside of Harry's point of view!  This was 
an idea someone had posted months ago, and I thought it was great!

Annemehr







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