What Can Apparate? My Theory/ Summoning vs "transfer"

eloiseherisson at aol.com eloiseherisson at aol.com
Thu Mar 27 21:46:06 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 54461

Martin:

>But my question remains unanswered: How does the ship get there? I'll add 
>the (perhaps) un-neccessary rider that it has a bunch of people on it. And 
>apparating into Hogwarts is the most underlined no-no in the books.
>
>So - it must have arrived physically. When this line of thinking came to me 
>ages ago I immediately thought of underground rivers, or at least a surface 
>feeder river from the lake to a point outside Hogwarts into which the ship 
>*could* apparate, then submerge to surface on the Hogwarts lake. Messy 
>though. Can't say I like it.

No. I think it is a bit flinty, personally.

One point that I don't *think* anyone's mentioned (apologies if I'm wrong) is 
that Viktor mentions the fact that the students had to *steer* the boat 
(whilst Karkaroff remained in his cabin), which sounds as if their manner of 
arrival had nothing to do with anything related to apparation, Floo-like 
phenomena, or any kind of intentional (by which I mean having the intent to 
achieve an aim) kind of magic.

It's an odd one. I, too, would like to hear JKR's explanation.

I wondered if the Hogwarts lake was a sea-loch, but there is no evidence to 
support that.

Oh, and an aside in response to Steve (bboy_mn), I thought that Dumbledore 
*conjured* the sleeping bags, rather than *transfered* them. Conjuring, to 
me, means creating them out of thin air (and according to JKR, conjured items 
do not endure), rather than fetching them out of storage. A summoning charm 
would presumably do the latter.

~Eloise
    
    



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