SHIP: Re: Who is the boy?

[anguaorc]

No: HPFGUIDX 54477

Martin wrote:
> the one that sticks in my mind is a distant view of a girl
> and a boy walking along the muddy lakeside early one damp autumn 
morning,
> munching toast, talking about stuff and looking out over the misty 
water.
> 
> I don't know why that image is so powerful with me. It must be just 
a
> classic romantic scene ;) All that's missing is them skimming 
stones.

Here's another "classic romantic scene" for you:

***
     And they shot up through the clouds.  A minute later, they burst 
out into a blaze of sunlight.
     It was a different world.  The wheels of the car skimmed the sea 
of fluffy cloud, the sky a bright, endless blue under the blinding 
white sun.
     "All we've got to worry about now are airplanes," said Ron.
      They looked at each other and started to laugh; for a long 
time, they couldn't stop.
      It was as thought they had been plunged into a fabulous dream.
***

I didn't even have to picture that one in my head to get the powerful 
imagery -- it's written right in the book.

My point?  I do have one.  Harry needs to have scenes alone with each 
of his two best friends, and he does.  It seems to me that the ones 
he has with his female best friend strike you as romantic, while the 
ones he has with his male best friend don't.  This is perfectly 
natural in our heterosexual-dominated culture, but *is that what the 
author intends*?  I feel sorry for JKR if, as I believe, she is 
trying to write a real and meaningful platonic friendship between 
Harry and Hermione, and people persistently interpret it in a 
romantic way.  She's already doing a lot to try to signal us NOT to 
think of it that way, including stating straight out that they're 
very platonic friends.  Does she need to keep a *chaperone* around, 
to keep people from getting the wrong idea?

Assuming, of course, that I'm correct, and it is the wrong idea. :)

Melissa wrote:
> That would be a pausible scenario IF the kiss happened at the same 
time that 
> Molly was hugging him in a motherly fashion, 

Angua:
But it *did* happen directly after the tight hug from Molly and the 
back-clap from Ron.  It was like this:  bang, bang, bang.  Paragraph, 
paragraph, paragraph.  "Keep in touch, Harry," "See you, 
Harry," "Bye, Harry!"  It seems odd to me to separate out Hermione's 
from the other two, when they're sooooo together in the book.

Melissa:
> It happened within the last 10 lines of the book. Right after Ron 
> clapped him on the back (and presumably walked away . .I say 
presumably 
> because although we don't see it happen, walking away after saying 
good bye 
> is the usual course of action). After all his mother was already at 
the 
> barrier had said goodbye. 

Angua:
I *really* don't get what's so special about the last ten lines 
that's not special about the last fourteen.  Is this something from a 
recent post I've missed?

Ron has not "walked away."  Without saying goodbye to Hermione?  Fred 
and George are still there, because Harry says goodbye to them next 
(within the last 7 lines!!).  I don't see Mrs. Weasley walking off 
without the twins.  And, for goodness sake, she's still apparently 
waiting for Ginny to get off the train.

No, this is how it seems to go:

Mr. Dursley and Mrs. Weasley are waiting near each other when the 
Trio comes through the wall.  Mrs. Weasley advances on Harry and hugs 
him.  Ron claps him on the back.  Hermione kisses him.  Fred and 
George (who came out after Harry) thank him.  Harry and Mr. Dursley 
walk off, leaving Mrs. Weasley, Ron, Fred, George, and Hermione 
standing there.  Presumably, Hermione is looking around for her 
parents, and the Weasleys are waiting for Ginny to come through the 
wall.

Greicy wrote:
I'll admit that I can concede that for now it looks like Hermione 
has a crush on Ron. Ron liking Hermione is more than obvious so I 
don't need to concede that. :D

Greicy, who can't believe that she just admitted that! =)

Angua:
Dude, where do I send the payoff money, and how much was it again?  ;)


Angua