[HPforGrownups] Is Snape unfair with House Points? (WAS Re: Teacher Ratings (Was: Why I hate Hag

[Ladi lyndi]

No: HPFGUIDX 56777

Sen wrote:
> Tom:
> <snip>
> Now, granted, we know that Harry is actually
> very concerned about how 
> little he knows, and that he's afraid that
> he'll be the worst student 
> in his year. *We* know that. But the other
> students (except for Ron) 
> don't. And the teachers don't, either.
> 
> Sen:
> 
> <snip>
>
>  It seems to me,
> everyone *pretty much* knew 
> he was out of the WW while he was growing up.
> McGonagall and 
> Dumbleydore especially because they were there
> the night Harry was 
> brought to the Dursleys. After living in the
> muggle world, I don't 
> feel anyone would *expect* him to know much
> except for whatever 
> natural things he'd done on his own (the
> examples given in SS). Of 
> course Harry is going to be concerned going to
> a new & different type 
> of school. Weren't we all when we made that
> change from Jr High to 
> High School for example? I'd be willing to bet
> at the very least the 
> teachers would be aware of how little "formal
> magic" he knows because 
> of McG & DD knowing the *exact* story. I'm also
> pretty sure Harry's 
> abilities weren't really going through the
> other students minds. I'm 
> sure everyone was doubting themselves. Well, at
> least those who came 
> from Muggle families and had no *clue* what to
> expect. 

Lynn:

Yes, I do think the teachers knew the whole story
and were very aware that Harry knows very little
'formal magic'.  To be fair though, the students
outside of Gryffindor may see Harry as something
other than he is, after all, the Gryffindors have
been having classes with Harry and by now realize
he's pretty much at the same place they are.  It
appears the WW has endowed Harry with superhuman
abilities and that's been passed on to the kids. 
Now, intelligent, rational and logical people
would realize that a 1 year old could not have
vanquished Voldemort all by his little old self
but it doesn't appear there are a whole lot of
intelligent, rational and logical people out
there.  Even the students from Muggle families
appear to know who Harry is.

If Snape had asked the questions without the
extra commentary we might have been looking at
this situation as a common teaching tool - though
I think the first I don't know should have been
sufficient but hey, Snape didn't appear to think
his students were too bright and he thought they
may have needed extra verification.  He must
obviously have been thinking this of the
Slytherins since, as pointed out above, the
Gryffindors would already know how much or little
Harry knows and by now would not be intimidated
by him.

I think the reaction of the class to Harry's
comment to Snape to try Hermione for the answer
is in response to their realization that Snape
was unfairly picking on Harry.  I don't think
there would have been that same response had
Snape merely been using a teaching tool.

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