[HPforGrownups] Evil in HP
Becky Walkden
runningbecky2002 at yahoo.com
Fri May 2 20:35:18 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 56822
hagrid <rubeus_hagrid at wanadoo.es> wrote:
imamommy:
I agree. This reminds me of the theories that were going around
about Percy!Evil and Rita Skeeter!Evil. I don't think Skeeter is in
league with Voldemort. But I do think she is able to be pretty
destructive in her own petty way. I don't think Percy is evil, but
he has some character flaws that my expose his family and friends to
harm in the future. Another example: Barty Crouch, Sr. He was
working for the good side, right? But he became pretty unethical.
He obviously wasn't a DE, but he wasn't exactly perfect, either.
This is why we all love Rowling: she writes characters with real
human weakness. Even the heroes have weaknesses. She examines these
so well, we learn about our own weaknesses while we read, and being
aware helps us want to correct them.
Back to Fudge, Percy, and Skeeter: There's a quote toward the end of
LOTR, where Gandalf says he fears that Saruman may still cause
trouble in a small way (sorry for the paraphrase). This of course he
does, in the Shire. So my point is, I don't think these people will
necessarily work for Voldie, but they may aid him unknowingly. Or
they may simply cause unrelated mischief.
Isaskun:
I agree. We have an old saying in Spain that goes: "donde hay un tonto hay un peligro" that means more or less "where there is a stupid person, there's danger". I think Voldemort is smart enough to take advantage of that kind of people. We know Bagman helped him without knowing, Crouch is in denial, he's very dangerous and he's not a very smart person, so he can very easyly be manipulated, so is Percy, sorry but it's true, so are many other people we don't know yet.
CHeers, Izaskun
ME: If we want to use other fantasy story lines as examples, also remember that in LOTR, it was mentioned by Gandolf that even Sauron was not evil to begin with. Another good example is of course Anakin Skywalker in the Star Wars storyline. But as you say, Izaskun, some people have buttons you can push and a great manipulator such as Voldemort is real good at pushing the right buttons. Not only to use others but even to "turn" them to evil. Either way benefits Voldemort of course but the latter is preferable to just manipulating good but stupid people. Here is my take on some of the potential characters.
RON-I cannot believe he'll become either evil nor dead. But he is a potential weakness to get to Harry because Ron has a lot of those hot "buttons" that Voldemort can try pushing. If he does, Ron will have some trying times ahead and it'll only be his basic goodness that would save him. The idea that he is tempted down that road at some point strikes me as very reasonable as we've seen his vulnerabilities stated very well in the first four books.
PERCY-Evil? Probably not but here is someone who can easily be manipulated by somebody like Voldemort. He possibly craves position and power and control and that is something Voldemort can give him. He's certainly not evil now. But the future? Who knows? If not, he can still possibly be a useful pawn.
Rita? No way. She's too petty to be either good nor evil nor much of anything else except a lying gossip.
Fudge? I don't know about him. Obviously he could be a great hinderance to Dumbledore and thus an accidental ally to Voldemort. But I don't think he is intentionally so right now and probably will never be. However his own prejudices and short-sightedness makes him very useful to Voldemort indeed. And maybe he really is on Voldemort's side even now. Again I don't think so, but it has to be considered a possibility.
Huggs Becky
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