No: HPFGUIDX 56929
Now this will surprise you...A Snapologist is going to agree with
several points in a "Snape is an immature brat" post....HOWEVER note
I said several, not all:
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Laura" <metslvr19 at y...>
wrote:>
> 2) Snape openly criticizes the teacher he is substituting for,
which > is very unprofessional. There is no need to do so.
True. As is your reference to his "forgetting" to use an honorific
when referring to (Professor) Lupin. Bad form. But it may be--and
this is going to be accused of fanfictamination--a result of
breeding. The "Veddy" upper classes have a condescending habit of
addressing and referring to their 'inferiors' in such a manner. We
don't know anything about Snape's breeding, that's speculation on my
part.
> 4) Snape reprimands the class *and* Lupin for how behind they are,
> with the "I would expect first-years to know this" bit. This
always
> irks me to no end- Snape damn well knows how incompetent the
previous
> DADA teachers were. He was the only one we know from canon to
fight
> against Quirrell's quest for the Stone, and he loathed Lockhart as
> much as the next guy. This, I think, shows not only how little
> respect he has for Lupin, but also in a way reinforces the AIDS-
type
> stereotype we've discussed before. He blames Lupin for anything
and
> everything- including things in which Snape knows Lupin is not at
> fault. Perhaps Lupin is *not* organized. Snape is justified in
> saying so, but it's unprofessional to say so to the class. What's
> even more unprofessional is to take another cheap shot at Lupin in
> front of the class- for something that Snape *knows* IS NOT Lupin's
> fault.
Now this I see as LESS an attack on (Professor) Lupin as a general
Snape rant on the state of DADA teaching at Hogwarts. I never really
took this as a personal criticism of Lupin when reading this and
still don't. "Knowing" Snape, I'm sure he meant to get that angle in
as well, but honestly I believe it's more his frustration over the
past several years of general incometence as you yourself have
pointed out. I'm one of those who does not believe for a minute that
Snape wants the job himself, but his comment that "It's time someone
took this class in hand" IS VALID! These kids are woefully behind and
there really is NO EXCUSE for that. No, it's not Lupin's fault. But
neither is it Snape's, he knew about Quirrel and was on to Lockhart
from day ONE.
So, what it amounts to is a waste of class time and a yes, immature
display of arrogance.
>
>
> 6) Snape ignores Hermione.
Ok, he's a misery. But Hermione knows Snape. She knows she annoys the
hell out of him. Has she learned NOTHING? No? Well then she deserves
it even more than I originally thought.
> 7) Snape threatens to tell Dumbledore how behind they are. This
gets me every time. I get so frustrated- as mentioned before, he
> absolutely knows that none of this is Lupin's fault, and he intends
> to tell *Dumbledore* about it! Please, even if this weren't
horribly
> immature ("I'm going to tell my mommy on you!") I'd still want to
> smack him- there's no need to say something like this to his
> students. Not only does he discredit the teacher, he also tries to
> make it seem as if some of this is *their* fault. Unless he was
> bluffing about it, which just makes him more of an idiot.
See above. Yes, it's a tantrum. There's no reason to strut it in
front of the students but once again It Is A Valid Point. Perhaps, he
thinks knowing that these kids don't care 2 knuts for his opinion,
they might be motivated if DD shows his sequined robes over the
grindylowe tank. Again, I don't think he's discrediting Lupin here.
Even if he's trying. Everyone in that room including Snape himself
and DD if he showed up know why that class is behind.
> Snape was incorrect about the kappas. Is this evidence important?
> Perhaps that he isn't as good at DADA as claimed? I wonder how
many > clues are in the schoolbooks.
Curious. IS he wrong or was JKR herself as was mentioned here
earlier? I actually prefer to think HE was wrong--as it goes with my
personal belief that he isn't interested in DADA but would much
rather stay with his potions.
>
> 11) "You will each write an essay, to be handed in to me, on the
ways you recognize and *kill* werewolves" emphasis mine. OK, so
Snape wants the class to catch on to Lupin. How to recognize
werewolves.
> Fine. But how to kill them? *shiver* Ok, I know, its DADA, they
> *do* need to know this kind of stuff. But it always kinda creeps
me
> out that Snape gave the lesson about werewolves *because* of Lupin,
> and he includes information about killing them. Yuck.
Killing werewolves? Now WHY would Severus Snape think it necessary
that a Hogwarts student know how to defend him/herself against a
werewolf--*killing* it if need be? I CAN'T IMAGINE!
>
> 12) "It is time somebody took this class in hand" Again, another
> unwarranted shot at Lupin. But it does have some truth to it-
> Hogwarts students *are* terribly behind in DADA. But is Snape
really the man to keep them up on it?
He's right! I know I've addressed this point 2x but He IS! And
despite what his intentions were I still don't see this as a personal
slight against Lupin. If that's what he meant (and likely it is) he
failed utterly.
Point 2--is he the one to do the job? Again, I don't think he wants
to be.
Oh, and thanks for the interesting mention of the Slytherin's boggart
lesson. That would have been good to see. I like Lupin and certainly
hope he would have treated them to the same quality teaching. Why do
I have a sick feeling in my gut saying, 'nope, they got redcaps'?