[HPforGrownups]Snape & James vs Sirius(WAS Is Snape unfair with House Points

[Taryn Kimel]

No: HPFGUIDX 56974


Annechan:
> Snape on the other's way... was intelligent (cf knowing more curses 
> than seventh grade students) but not enough to be the first student 
> (James was, Sirius was second, and I bet Lily was third) he wasn't a 
> headboy (James was) and on the quidditch field, we don't know if he 
> played, we just know he's skilled enough to be a referee (anyway James 

Hi,

are you sure about your statement? How do you know there is such a
"category" of intelligence??

To be first student is definitly no proof for beeing most intelligent!
Traditionally first student will become the person who gets most
promotion!!! In fact promotion means very often popularity, because it
is a very important indicator for feeling good and beloved. That´s the
best supposition for it. 
I work with kids professionally so I know what I`m talking about.
There are different forms of intelligence and talents.

Me:
I'm going to disagree with that on the basis that I still /am/ in school (sophomore in high school, to be exact). The top two students in my class are the top two because they are rather unpopular and devote mass amounts of time to their schoolwork and sacrificing more of their social life than others. More popular people tend to spend more time with their friends and at social outings. Below them are the smart (not necessarily /smartest/) people who are the most hard-working. I would stake my intelligence against most of the people in my class, yet I'm 60th. Why? Because I have a horrible work ethic and lack the determination to do everything that people higher ranking than me do. Hermione has the combination of being very intelligent and extremely hard-working and diligent, which is why she holds first in the class. She's eased up on being quite so psycho about schoolwork after spending time with Harry and Ron. Why? Because before, she didn't have anything else to do. She was very unpopular, so she filled her time with school. Harry and Ron have given a valuble balance to her life.

I'd also like to know where those ranks (James, Sirius, Lily) came from. I don't recall them in the books, but maybe I've being silly. You've said that Lily is just personal speculation, which I think is pretty unfounded because we know about five people from that class, but I'd like to know about the James and Sirius ranks. I've always thought of Snape as a Hermione-type in his school days, but the type who would grow mean at teasing instead of crying. I would speculate Snape could've been a second to James' first.

--Taryn

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