Neville/Memory Charms

annemehr annemehr at yahoo.com
Mon May 5 04:33:11 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 56988

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Kelly Grosskreutz" 
<ivanova at i...> wrote:
<snip>
> Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere here.  I'm too lazy to go 
doublecheck GoF
> to verify my facts.  Just trying to get this written up so I can get 
to bed.
> During one of the trials in the Pensieve (Karkaroff's?), we see 
Crouch Sr.
> If I'm not mistaken, somewhere in one of these trials we overhear 
him
> telling someone that his son had just received 12 O.W.L.'s.  This 
would
> place Crouch Jr. as just having finished his fifth year, around 16 
years
> old.  If these particular trials were held not long after 
Voldemort's
> disappearance, then we can put Neville between 1-2 years old.
> 
<snip theory that Crouch Jr.'s trial was at age 18, so Neville is 4>

Annemehr:
Actually, the "twelve O.W.L.s" quote was from the Chapter called "The 
Madness of Mr. Crouch", where Crouch escapes from Wormtail and makes 
his way to Hogwarts and Harry sees him  by the forest.  So, he says it 
when Harry is fourteen, and he is raving.  An excerpt from this rather 
long passage gives you the gist:

     "Thank you, Weatherby, and when you have done that, I would like 
     a cup of tea.  My wife and son will be arriving shortly, we are  
     attending a concert tonight with Mr. and Mrs. Fudge."

     Crouch was now talking fluently to a tree again, and seemed      
     completely unaware that Harry was there, which surprised Harry so 
     much he didn't notice that Crouch had released him.

     "Yes, My son has recently gained twelve O.W.L.s, most      
     satisfactory, yes, thank you, yes, very proud indeed.  ...

So, it can have nothing to do with figuring out how old Neville was at 
the time of his parents' torture, I'm afraid.

Annemehr
there's never a L.O.O.N. around when you need one...





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