Hurt/Comfort Rankings

[derannimer]

No: HPFGUIDX 57298

Captain Cindy wrote: 

> Derannimer challenged:

>> Well, but as I understand it, Hurt/Comfort doesn't have to be 
>>based on physical pain. (I actually prefer it to be based on 
>>emotional or psychological or spiritual pain.) 

> Oh, *ugh!*

> Now Hurt/Comfort is the same thing as a bad hair day? The cure is a 
> ride on the psychiatrist's couch? "Just lean back and tell us all 
> about your *feelings,* Severus." Don't take this the wrong way or 
> anything, but that is so *Not Bangy!*

<frigidly>

Hurt-Comfort is not a theory. It is a common reader-response 
*phenomenom.* It doesn't have to Bang. Human behaviour doesn't always 
have to Bang, Captain. 

> Look, Harry had lots of emotional pain before the graveyard scene. 
> But as The Elkins herself once said, it was the graveyard scene 
> where Harry has all of that physical pain when the female readers 
> rushed to his side. 

But they've been *primed* for it--and I think that a lot of the 
younger female readers have been crushing on Harry for a while before 
Graveyard. Graveyard was just the cherry on the sundae. ; )

> To tell you truth, when Harry and Ron were having their spat in    
> GoF, I didn't care much about Harry's precious feelings. But when  
> Harry threw that badge and nailed Ron in the forehead? I *felt*    
> that! 

> I say Hurt/Comfort has to have a major element of physical pain for 
> it to count. Guilt is nice, but only layered on top of the physical 
> pain. And yes, lying on the Azkaban cold stone floor with other 
> prisoners making so much darn noise that you can't sleep at night 
> counts as physical pain in my book.

Why? 

Seriously, why? Do you think that emotional pain isn't as severe, or 
can't be as destructive to a person, in the long run? Because I think 
it can be. (Didn't you ever crush on Heathcliff? Just wondering.)

Anyway, _I Hurt-Comfort on Snape_. I don't *care* if you say that I 
can't, I *do.* So apparently emotional pain *does* cut it. 

> Derannimer continued:

>> <waits for the disgusting Prince of Lies theory to raise its ugly 
>> head>

> Hey, we may have to take Prince of Lies for another spin, now that 
> you mention it. ;-)

Oh, no. Cindy, that theory is positively slanderous. 

>Derannimer cried:

>> Elkins! Where's Elkins? Here we are having a Hurt/Comfort 
>>discussion and Captain Cindy's making very rude Personal Remarks 
>>about me and the blasted Hurt/Comfort *expert* is nowhere in sight! 

> Bwahahahah!

> Elkins is not here to save you this time, My Pretty! You will have 
> to make the case for Hurt!Snape all on your own. 

<Derannimer clears her throat.>

Errr. . . Captain? You, er. . . seem to have turned into Long John 
Silver. You may already be aware of this fact, but I just thought I'd 
mention it. 

> And just to make this difficult, I submit that Snape *enjoyed* all 
> those cruel DE adventures before he spied for Dumbledore. He wasn't 
> hurt, and he has no guilt. So there's nothing worth comforting down 
> in Snape's cold, damp dungeon.

Of *course* he enjoyed it! He's a vicious sadist! Why else do you 
think he's *got* guilt? If he hadn't enjoyed it--and if he didn't 
think he might *still* enjoy it--then he'd be able to excuse himself!

Anyway, hang on a minute! What do you mean, "he has no guilt?" What 
do you think that business with Egg and Eye was about then? 

> Cindy -- looking for a way to get Fudge on the list, but coming up 
> empty



Derannimer -- wondering why anyone who wants to get Cornelius Fudge 
on the list would object to the inclusion of Snape