[HPforGrownups] Re: Speculation on Tom Riddle's origins

[Rosebeth C.]

No: HPFGUIDX 57412

>From: Lissa B <lissbell at colfax.com>

>Lissa replied:
>Honestly, I think there's a chance Voldemort would have succeeded in
>killing himself--and Harry--if Voldemort had not been under the magical
>influence of so many immortality-granting spells & potions.  I suspect
>these were powerful enough to protect Voldemort just enough to spare
>Harry and to keep the Dark Lord himself in existence in a sort of
>limbo.  At the same time, I'm not sure--please correct me if I'm
>wrong--it is canonically possible in Rowling's Potterverse to kill your
>father during time travel.  Hermione notes that you can kill your past
>or future self, but she doesn't say you can kill your parents.  That's
>one of those classic time-traveling paradoxes.  Different authors, no
>doubt, would take different stances on it.  If I'm missing a passage or
>ignoring something JKR said, please let me know.  I'm genuinely
>interested in this.

Rosebeth:
You're right in that we have no idea what the effect of LV's experiments 
with immortality has on him or his attempt to kill Harry.

In PA (US Ed. page 399 paperback), Hermione says "Harry, what do you think 
you'd do if you saw yourself bursting into Hagrid's house?"

"I'd - I'd think I'd gone mad," said Harry, "or I'd think there was some 
Dark Magic going on - "

"Exactly! You wouldn't understand, you might even attack yourself!  Don't 
you see? Professor McGonagall told me what awful things have happened when 
wizards have meddled with time . . . .Loads of them ended up killing their 
past or future selves by mistake!"

This is all I found on the issue.  It's my belief that you can kill yourself 
while time traveling then you can kill anyone, including your parents.
>
>
>Lissa replied:
>I really have to apologize for not fully explaining my theory, but I was
>trying to keep my post short.  I don't believe anyone took Riddle back
>to 1927.  I think Ginny, for whatever reason, goes back to 1926 already
>pregnant with Harry's child and gives birth to him there.  Whether she's
>turned a bit evil and knows what she's doing or whether she's suffering
>from memory-alteration, I have no idea.  In any case, I believe she
>either genuinely falls in love with Riddle Sr and marries him or dupes
>him into marrying her.  Then she dies giving birth to Tom Marvolo
>Riddle.
>
Rosebeth:
This brings more questions to mind. Why does she go back?  Does she know 
she's pregnant before she goes and that Harry's the father?  Why wouldn't 
she leave a more obvious clue that Harry is the father? I'm sure there are 
more, but it's late.

>
>
>Lissa replied:
>If my theory ends up true, I think it will be one of the hardest tests
>Harry will face.  Yes he does yearn for family.  I really don't think he
>will be able to kill his own son.  I think it will be up to someone else
>to step in and do the job.

Rosebeth:
I have no evidence for this, but it seems to me that Harry is being set up 
to bring down LV.
>
>Lissa replied:
<portion snipped> I have no evidence to point toward Ginny's state of mind.
>Well... no, I'll take that back.  I am intrigued by "Marvolo".  I think
>it's significant somehow, but all my attempts to unravel its meaning
>have lead nowhere reasonable.

Rosebeth:
I agree that the name Marvolo is important, but I have no idea how.
>
Rosebeth
Looking forward to whatever lies ahead for Harry.

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