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darrin_burnett bard7696 at aol.com
Mon May 12 12:29:14 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 57658

> 
> bowlwoman:
> 
> > I always felt that Dumbledore gave the points to the trio (and 
> > Neville) at the Final Feast in PS/SS to "give back" the ones that 
> > McGonagall took away when they were caught in the Norbert 
> fiasco.   I 
> > don't think he did it solely for Gryffindor to win the house cup 
> or 
> > to favor them.  
> (...)
> > I think DD was not only rewarding them for saving the WW from the 
> re-
> > rise of an immortal VM with the stone, I think he was also giving 
> > them back their dignity that was lost because they did a good 
> thing 
> > to help out a friend.

Koticzka follow: 

> An eye for an eye? It not Dumbledore's style. The tactic would  
> smells Slyths rather than Gryff. 

Where in Bowlwoman's piece do you see eye for an eye? She said 
Dumbledore was rewarding them for saving the WW from the stone and 
also, giving them back the points they lost for trying to do a good 
deed to help a friend.

I don't see vengeance, retribution, or anything else associated 
with "eye for an eye" in her post. Please explain.

Because what I see is Dumbledore correcting an injustice and 
recognizing that some points are worth more than others.

 I was angry about those final points mainly because it was unfair in 
> my opinion and because people clap their hands only for three 
little  Gryffs who earn points breaking almost all possible rules, at 
the  same time they complain about Master of Potion. 

"Three little Gryffs who earn points breaking almost all possible 
rules."

Wow. That's a SERIOUS downplaying of what Harry, Ron and Hermione 
did. Did you MEAN it to read, "They didn't do much of anything, just 
broke some rules. Just three little Gryffs."

Forget the saving the stone for a moment. Forget Harry's courage in 
taking on a fully-trained, fully-grown wizard and Ron's self-
sacrifice, and Hermione's cool thinking.

They outfoxed their teachers. The teachers set up all those defenses. 
Ron is a better chess player than McGonagall. Harry can outfly what 
Flitwick charms up and Hermione, at least in terms of logic, 
outsmarted Snape. (Took her about a minute, too.)

I'm glad to see that rewarded, myself. A school where the students 
who surpass the teachers' expectations get rewarded. I like that 
concept.

<snip the cow thing>

> I understand the motivation, but dignity is not about winning for 
> every price. It is about winning honestly, in a noble way.
> Is it not? Wouldn't it be more Gryffindor way to lose but stay 
noble?

They won in a noble way, much more noble than the Slyths. I consider 
it more noble to earn points through bravery, good deeds and honor 
than to skulk around, trying to lose another team points.

And as I've said before, Dumbledore chose to reward four students who 
each made courageous sacrifices doing what they thought was best for 
the school. 

This message is especially needed now that V-Mort is back, and will 
no doubt be combing Hogwarts -- and first and foremost, the ranks of 
the Slyths -- for future DE material.

Stick with the honorable path, do the right, not the easy, thing and 
you will ultimately be rewarded. It will be harder, but the cheers 
will be that much greater.

It would have been easy for Harry, Ron and Hermione to just stay in 
their common room and trust the teachers' defenses, even though they 
knew a teacher had turned evil (didn't have the name right, of 
course, but they knew a teacher was out for the stone) and it would 
have been easy for Neville to just hide in his room, not worrying 
about who else was losing points, so long as he wasn't.

But all four took the harder road. And were rewarded.

Darrin





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