Re: Adopted!Harry is Really. TTTR
Kirstini
kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk
Mon May 12 22:23:07 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 57706
Thought I'd de-bonnet my bees re. the Admiring Skeptic's huge
Voldemort!Harry theory:
The Admiring Skeptic said:
<snip most of theory>
8: Now that Harry's blood is in Voldemort, killing Harry won't
completely eliminate Voldemort's beginning, so no godhood. Or,
Voldemort touching Harry proved that the preparations for the
godhood spell were done wrong to begin with. Or whatever. But then
Dumbledore looked old and tired again because he realized that even
if Voldemort doesn't become a god, he can do lots of evil anyway.
Kirstini (c'est moi): But surely they'd have the same blood in the
first place?
<snippety snip Snape snip>
Admiring Skeptic again:
Making Harry = Voldemort plays the strongest
card possible for the moral choices theme. Harry doesn't defeat
Voldemort because he is born with any special abilities he has
exactly the same ones Voldemort has. Neither does Harry have an
innately better character he's got the identical innate character
as Ultimate Evil. But somehow (JKR will pick the somehow she
believes in), Harry made better choices, and that's the only
difference.
Kirstini again:
I'm just not buying this "identical innate character" thing. As I
read down your post, I found a lot of your argument convincing, but
I thought to myself "how on earth is this going to get round the
fact that Harry and LV have completely different characters?" It
would seem to me that the facts of their similar upbringings - which
neither had any control over - and their very different *reactions*
(NOT "choices") to said upbringings would make the inherent
differences in their characters immediatly obvious. Both grow up
(as) orphans, completely isolated, friendless, and treated badly.
One of them develops an inferiority complex displayed in
overachievment/desire for ultimate power ("...I...the greatest
sorcerer in the world!" CoS Brit, p231) , becomes bitter, nasty, and
generally psychopathically genocidal. The other makes friends
easily, doesn't really like a lot of publicity, finds an outlet for
lack of recognition in Muggle world through competing at a *team*
sport, and tends to support the underdog.
Nope. I'm still not seeing it.
Plus there's the point someone else answering this message made
about the whole "True Gryffindor" thing [possible theory - were the
Founding FathersandMothers of Hogwarts really just one person with
many different facets, ultimate message of the series being
something like "We found out that each of us was a brain, a
princess, a criminal, a basket case and a genocidal maniac" cf.
Hermione as Ravenclaw? ;)]
The Skeptic continues:
Or in other words, the ultimate battle is with the evil who is
oneself. Sounds good, no?>
Kirstini - yerrrrsss. It does, darn it. But also a bit reminiscent
of that bit in the cave in The Empire Strikes Back where Luke takes
off Vader's helmet to reveal..dahdahdah...himself! JKR is no Piggy
Lucas. She's far more intelligent and a lot subtler. I'm sure that
if all the Harry/Riddle similarities which made the first part of
this argument so compelling are going to be employed to this kind of
end then she'll use the similarities to highlight parallels in (as
you said) choices - ie CoS Sorting Hat dilemma.
Final Skepticism:
I have a continuation of my theory that involves the end of the
> series and the night J&L died, but enough is enough for now.
Oooh! Please! Apocolypse *now*! (but no more TimeTurners, please
chaps. They're making my head spin)
Kirstini
can't seem to keep her hands off CoS this week.
PS-I think you need an acronym for this, though. I really do.
That'll keep *me* occupied while I'm supposed to be helping my first
years revise. Anyone else?
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