Re. Adopted Harry is really.....TTTR/Killing past and future selves/AK

[mlle_bienvenu]

No: HPFGUIDX 57827

Lissa had
> written:
>  
> "If you can find a way to make an HP=LV theory
> workable *without* Harry
> Potter being adopted 
> 

Mlle Bienvenu (Me): I am very intrigued by this whole 'without 
begining and without end concept.  When I read the theory, I looked 
like this: O_o I hope JKR, does something along those lines with the 
plot, because I feel it would be nothing short of amazing. 

That being said, I do have some ideas (not criticisms exactly, but 
some things that I may be confused on). As I said, I simply love the 
whole immortality scheme that LV may have cooked up. But if he is to 
truly be without a beginning, wouldn't he have to have not been 
conceived yet? What that would suggest to me, is that he would have 
to be trying to kill his parents (hence Harry=TRSr?) , not only his 
parents, but specifically his parents before he was concieved. 

(The following ideas contradict this first idea. ^ Although they are 
about similar topics, they do not go together)

Another idea that occured to me while looking at this incredibla 
theory is that everyone is assuming that Tom Riddle Jr came before 
Harry Potter ie Adopted!Harry. Harry does not have to be adopted if 
he, in fact is J&L's son. So where did Tom Riddle Jr come from? What 
if Harry (or someone else), sometime in the future, brought his 
infant self -back- in time who would eventually become the TMR we all 
love to hate. 

Another idea I had, building off of that idea (and I don't really 
believe this one, because I have absolutely no backing for it, but I 
thought I'd throw it out there anyway) What if, Snape is future 
Harry? (The only little inkling of evidence I have is that Snape's 
hair is greasy, implying that perhaps his hair is untameable, like 
Harry's....what? Yes, it is flimsy evidence :P) That would explain 
why he seems to be trying to beat Harry's ego into the ground. 

So here's the scenario... Harry grows up some more, for some reason 
that I can't yet ponder (because I'm on one hour of sleep) he (or 
someone else) decides that baby!harry should be sent into the remote 
past (okay, I do have a theory of why that might be...since time 
can't be changed, TMR already existed to Harry, so someone thinks 
that the only way to destroy Tom is to send back the Famous Harry 
bleeding Potter to take care of it) , Harry comes back to the 
present, realizes he's made a horrible mistake and inadvertantly 
created Tom Riddle (so that would make Harry, interestingly enough 
both the father and the son..hmmmm), so he grows up into Snape!Harry 
who tries to beat his original self's (Harry Potter's) self esteem 
into the ground, because it may discourage him from making the 
mistake that created Tom Riddle. 

Okay, did that make any sense at all? Didn't think so... In the words 
of Chief Miles O'Brien, I hate temporal mechanics. 

The Avada Kedavra threads have reminded me of something that I 
wondered a long time ago (when I heard a theory about Harry having to 
kill himself to kill Voldemort) Can Avada Kedavra be used to commit 
suicide? If you can't commit suicide using AK, maybe that's why Harry 
survived his first encounter with LV. If Harry is LV, then it would 
be the same as suicide, wouldn't it?  I know there's no canon 
evidence to say you CAN'T commit suicide using AK, but I thought I'd 
ask the question.

Ok. Going to sleep now...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Mlle Bienvenu