Y does DD trust SS?

[young_he2003]

No: HPFGUIDX 58005

I'm new so don't expect this to be too coherent

Something bothers me. If we believe Moody/Crouch then there is no 
defense to the AK, no counter curse and no cure. I believe him. 
Therefore, regardless of Lily's protection, Harry did not survive the 
AK because the there is no protection. 

Now, everyone knows the full story of the events at Godric Hollow, 
but how can this be so seeing as no-one survived the events except a 
baby? I mean, even before the events of PS and the conversation of 
Voldy/Quirrel it was common knowledge that Lily died protecting Harry 
and that Harry was cursed but that it failed and Voldy fled - a 
shadow of his former self. But how does everyone know this?

What if there actually was someone there, someone who conviced DD 
where his loyalties really are by cursing voldy just in time to save 
Harry. The AK wasn't properly cast (though it clearly did something 
as Harry has a curse scar).

It gives Snape a good reason for hating Harry (apart from the 
LOLLIPOPS theory which I'm sorry to say I haven't really bought into 
yet) as Harry is, albeit unwittingly, taking credit for something 
that Snape achieved even though he can't even remember it, had 
nothing to do with it and is popular and accepted wherever he goes - 
something which our poor Severus probably never was. 

But I suspect some at least of the Death Eaters know it wasn't 
something special or unbeatable about Harry. Voldemort finds the idea 
laughable in front of a circle of them in GoF. But also Lucius 
says 'It is not wise to be so anti-HP given that most of our kind 
believe him to be the cause of Voldy's downfall' or some such. 
Implying that he and Malfoy junior know differently. 

Also, there is still time for Trelawney's first prediction to come 
true (if you believe it was that Harry would kill V). Voldemort  is 
alive, well and yet to be done in. Talking about predictions I'm 
pretty sure that there's more to the Bane and Firenze conversation in 
PS. Apologies if this has come up before but Firenze had seen 
something in the stars and was eager to rescue Harry from what was 
lurking in the forest. Did Firenze see that V would attack / kill 
Harry? Personally I think both predictions can come true and at the 
end of book 7 H and V get in a big fist fight and both die. Or 
something.

hmmm... but i can't explain why lily didn't need to die. the text so 
far suggests she would have been left alone if she allowed H to die. 
don't know why.

& while I'm here, when James saved SS life we're assuming it was 
about saving him from Moony after Sirius' prank. But can't help 
feeling there's something more to it than that and there's a deeper 
james-saving-severus story going on. the snape/sirius dislike is too 
strong, verging on hatred, for it to be based on this prank and 
childhood feuds. surely we find out more on this later. Please please.

Helen.