[HPforGrownups] Re: Stone Defenses
Koticzka
koticzka at wp.pl
Fri May 16 18:39:46 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 58023
From: m.steinberger
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Stone Defenses
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:53 AM
>>The odd thing about the Ph. Stone's defenses is not that they were too
easy, but that solutions were deliberately provided. I'm referring to the
brooms in the key room. Why leave brooms there? And the riddle in the
potions room. Why leave any clues at all? Any normal person setting up the
potions defense would have left the clue to the potions locked in a safe
elsewhere in the castle. And if you imagine that Quirrel nabbed the potions
riddle and then left it with the potions, that doesn't explain why there
were three (or more) brooms in the key room. Had Quirrel brought a broom in
and left it, there would be only one.<<
*** Koticzka's comment: What is easy and obvious for kids, not necessarily
is easy for adults. We have been given the clue and led to the solutions during the book (plot), that's first.
Second: try to do the same thing as kids do when playing - bend, jump,
run - without preparation! Good luck and let me know if you can. It becomes
more and more difficult every day...
Third: Snape (my favourite, poor dear) used logic - someone has complained
that "the best he could do was solved by the first year student Hermione" -
remember her words about knowledge of logic among wizards and witches? Not
very common (some hints on Snape's attitudes?)
Forth: The Trio is more that one - the effect of synergy comes to be more
usuful here - connection of strategic thinking (Ron), knowledge and logical
thinking (Hermiona) and bravery and strengh (Harry) (hint who's NOT going to
die as needed at the very end?)
Oh, and Steve answers, too - thank you, we share the points... (geez, am I
reading May the 14th?!)
I have not found Snape's riddle that simple, but perhaps it is the
translation which made it more fuzzy at some points -
what-did-the-author-want-to-say-problems
The Admiring Skeptic:
>>I'm sure this was discussed years ago, but I just wanted to add this
factor to the current thread on how much credit the trio get for breaking
the defenses. For first years, they did very well, but the defenses were
clearly set up to be broken.
BTW, in the context of the first book, not the whole series, the defenses
are fine. The whole book is a sweet jaunt into magic-land, and it doesn't
ask to make much logical sense. But looking back from the much more serious
vantage of book 4, the stone issue becomes very peculiar.
***Koticzka's comment - of course naive... kids winning - they have to.
First book of the possible (not sure yet) series addressed to children.
Perhaps JKR writes for everybody, but looking for a book you find it most
probably among literature for children (when sold off the promotion stand)
;)
Koticzka
How can you hurt a man who has nothing?
Give him something broken.
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