[HPforGrownups] Re: The Unforgivable Curses and killing

[Kelly Grosskreutz]

No: HPFGUIDX 58181

> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Eric Oppen" <oppen at m...> wrote:
> <snip>
> > For that matter---_are_ the Unforgivables _literally_
> > Unforgivable?  If, say, the DEs were storming my little home,
> > lusting for my blood, and I began throwing AKs at them, would I
> > _necessarily_ be thrown into Azkaban?  Every legal system I know of,
> > everywhere in the world, makes a distinction between  _murder_ and
> > killing in self-defense, and excuses the latter.  To be sure you do
> > have to go through some serious proving that you _were_ acting in
> > self-defense, but if this is proven to the satisfaction of the
> > authorities, you walk.
>
> Valky:
> I had always assumed that there was a deeper, more canonical (meant
> literally) basis to the word "Unforgivable" in this case. Though the
> story does seem to suggest that it pertains to Ministry of Law, I
> believe this may be simply an interpretation of the original creed by
> lawmen. Similar to the commandment thou shalt not steal becoming law.
> I am supposing that ancient Wizarding texts describe much deeper
> ramifications of using unforgivables. The deeper morality and virtues
> of the side of good in the wizarding world seem to me to be a
> recognition of "soul destruction" by unforgivable behaviour.

 To use AK, I believe you need to have the intention of killing someone.  It
could be used in self-defence, yes, but I think the curse is fueled by the
darker aspects of oneself.  I believe it's been said once before that one
needs a lot of power to cast that curse, and none of the Gryffindor fourth
years could do so.  That's because they don't have that desire and darkness
to do so.  Although I wonder about Harry in the SS third year and if he
could've pulled it off in the heat of the moment had he known it.

Kelly Grosskreutz
http://www.idcnet.com/~ivanova