Treleways Prediction and True Heirs

Linda KIDATHEART_ at CHARTER.NET
Tue May 20 03:12:57 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 58256

Pip!Squeak wrote:

> I actually think it more likely that Arthur Weasley is the heir 
of  
> Gryffindor,not Harry. The Weasley family's given names are all 
> either based on Arthurian legend or on names used by the British 
> Royal Family. It suggests that, like the Malfoys, they're 
> wizarding 'royalty'.
> 
> [The Malfoy's also have 'royal' names. Lucius brings to mind  
> the 'Prince of Darkness' and Draco connects with 'Pendragon'.]
> 
> This is in keeping with the 'choices, rather than abilities' theme 
> throughout the books so far. Tom Riddle *chose* to be the Heir of 
> Slytherin. 
    
   >snip, snip,snip<

> Equally, Harry has made a series of choices throughout the book. 
He 
> has chosen to be a Gryffindor, chosen to fight Voldemort, chosen 
to  
> return evil with good, chosen to remain a wizard. Harry is going 
> through a 'growing-up' process where he chooses to be Gryffindor's 
> spiritual heir.

   >snipping RIddle's growing up process<
 
> Blood versus choices. Perhaps Harry, with no bloodline, is the 
true  
> heir to Gryffindor (over his friend Ron, who has the bloodline). 
Tom 
> Riddle, with the bloodline, is the false heir to Slytherin.
 
ME(Linda):

    I'd like to take this one step further. First, I think the idea 
of Arthur Weasley and his children being the blood heirs of 
Gryffindor is a wonderful one. It rings true with me. I don't think 
we have even begun to see what kind of power that Arthur may be able 
to weild. More importantly IMO, however, is Arthur's attitude toward 
muggles. Instead of fearing the unknown, he embraces it and wants to 
learn all that he possibly can about those whose lives are so 
fundamentally different from the world he knows. He is an amazingly 
perceptive character, able to see the potential of all creatures, 
wizards and muggles. He is a very wise character, although not as 
obviously so as Dumbledore. He exhibits a level of tolerance that I 
think is comparable to the way the character of Godric Griffyndor 
has been painted for us in cannon.(My interpretation of GG, freel 
free to disagree). But I'm starting to ramble so I'm going to move 
on to my second point.
     The above establishes why I agree with the Gryffindor/Weasley 
match-up. But what of Salizar Slytherin's blood heirs?  IMHU, I 
nominate the Malfoys. Both families, as noted by Pip!Squeak, seem to 
be old wizarding families; wizard royalty as it were. The extreme 
hatred of all things muggle (and muggle born) defines Lucius's 
character to this point in canon. I think, over the course of many 
generations, SS's fear of muggles, having been passed down through 
his family, has turned to hatred of anything to do with muggles or 
the muggle world in general. I can't seem to get away from the fact 
that most hatred ,and by extension prejudice, is ultimately based in 
fear. Indeed, it is that fear that LV is turning to his advantage. I 
can't help but think that instead of being the origin of the hatred 
and violence that so marked his reign of terror, LV was instead the 
one who focused prejudices and hatreds that had already existed for 
generations, much like Hitler vilifying the Jews before and during 
WW II.
     I read on another site a theory that Trellaway's first 
prediction may have been that the heir of Gryffindor would defeat 
the heir of Slytherin. Could this be a confrontation between the 
blood heirs, Arthur and Lucius? The animosity is most certainly 
already there. Could the twist be that the prophecy actually had 
nothing to do with Harry at all and that what happened that 
halloween night was a totally seperate matter? Maybe the prophecy 
said the two heirs of each founder-the blood heir and the heir by 
choice would combine to unite the WW and the muggle world. Or maybe 
it was that the two heirs from Gryffindor would combine their 
respective strengths to defeat the two heirs of Slytherine. Maybe LV 
thought that was James and Harry?
      Awaiting your comments.

-Linda


     





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