Hermione and her time -turner

Steve bboy_mn at yahoo.com
Thu May 22 18:39:05 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 58449

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "anujasathe" <anujasathe at i...>
wrote:

>  
> You can't really argue that the actual rule is: You must not be seen
by your own selves. [page 288 : Dumbledore in the hospital wing - "But
remember this both of you.You must not be seen.....you know the law
-... you- must- not -be -seen"] This certainly makes it clear that you
can't be sen by anyone at all! ...edited...
> 
> Doesn't it seem impossible that Hermione could not be seen by
anybody and yet interact with both students and teachers?How is she
doing it?
> 
> 
> Beaky


bboy_mn:

You need to remember that Dumbledore is explaining this to Hermione
who has already had a detailed explaination of the rules, regulations,
and dangers surrounding the use of the Time Turner. So there is no
need or time for Dumbledore to go into every precise detail again.
When Dumbledore says, " ...you know the law ... you must not be seen",
it's not intented to be comprehesive, all defining, all encompassing
absolute statement, it is simply a reminder to Hermoine to be carefull. 

They 'must not be see' for a variety of reasons. 

First, they are aiding Dumbledore in circumventing the Ministry of
Magic by helping a condemned magic creature, and a notorious escape
criminal escape. In order to avoid spending an extremely long time in
Azkaban, it would probably be best if no one saw them.

Next, the risk being seen by themselves could have disasterous results
as Hermione pointed out to Harry. With regard to Hermione's daily Time
Turning activities, I don't think either of herselves seeing her other
self would really be a problem. Hermione's time travel all occurs
within an hour or so of the actual events and occurs repeatedly
through out the day and the school year. Both Hermionne's are aware of
what is going on. Both of her knows she is time traveling several
times during the course of the day, and if either saw the other, they
would know what was going on, and their wouldn't be a problem. 

BUT when the second Harry and Hermoine go back in time, the first
Harry and Hermione don't know about it. If the first Harry and
Hermoine see the second time traveling Harry/Hermoine, they are going
to be very confused. As Harry said, he would probably think he was
going crazy, or think it was a plot or attack by some Dark Magic or
Dark Wizard, in which case, he may decide to make a pre-emptive strike
against this preceived attack and end up injuring or killing himself
or Hermione. That would be very very bad for the temporal stability of
the space/time continuum.

Finally, Hermione in her daily time travel needs to avoid having any
of the other students or teacher see more than one of her at a time.
She also needs to avoid have students and teachers see her suddenly
appear or disappear. They all know she is too young, untrained, and
unlicensed, and therefore, not allowed to apparate. Also, the general
student population isn't suppose to know that McGonagall is aiding
Hermione's studies with a Time Turner. So Hermione needs to be very
careful about her routine use of the Time Turner.

Back to the beginning, Dumbledore is not making an all encompassing,
all defining statement in the hospital wing, he is simple reminding
Hermione to be careful.

A logical analysis of the overal use and context of the Time Turner
should tell you that 'not being seen' is not absolute, but a guideline
for proper use of the Time Turner.

PS: for those who are keeping track, I estimate that Hermione's
biological age is 52 days older than her chronological age because of
the use of the Time Turner. [Estimate 6 hours per day, 5 days a week
for 10 months]. Thought you might like to know.

Just a thought.

bboy_mn










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