OoP SPOILERS: Worries for Harry? Warning: Long Reply

[innermurk]

No: HPFGUIDX 58479

Queen of serpents wrote a breakdown of DD mistakes:
> > COS:
> >
> > 1) Hires Lockhart (I really, really, really hate Lockhart. I mean 
it.) who
> is
> > a fraud, a braggart, and imcompetent at almost anything except 
his very
> > useful memory charms.  Are this kids going to learn anything at 
DADA?
> It's no
> > wonder Snape thinks he has to tough them up somewhat (though it's 
not
> really his
> > place to do so).  Even after he takes all the bones out of 
Harry's arm,
> lets
> > Cornish pixies injure students and destroy his classroom, and so 
on and so
> > forth, he doesn't get sacked.
> >

I'm not defending Lockhart here, but I do have to ask why it's all 
right for Snape to mistreat students as a "learning tool" and it's 
not ok for Lockhart to do so. There seems to be a double standard 
running around here. Let's face it if Snape had set the trio in a 
room and unleashed a bunch of cornish pixies on them, some on this 
list would argue that it was an important lesson, he was trying to 
toughen them up, he was grooming them to fight the Dark Lord, and a 
myriad of other excuses. But when Lockhart does it, he's just a 
fraud, braggart, and an icompetent idiot?


> > POA:
> >
> > 1) Hires Lupin, who while a competent teacher for once (thank 
heaven!) is
> > nevertheless a werewolf , and does slip up once in a while (" He 
didn't
> take his
> > potion tonight! He's not safe!"--The Dementor's Kiss, pg 380) I 
know that
> > Lupin is only human and I love him, but one slip up at the wrong 
place,
> the wrong
> > time and he could kill and/or infect a lot of students.  It 
really does
> suck
> > all around, I must say.


Kelly Grosskreutz replied to this point:
Why >
did Lupin forget to take his potion?  He saw on the Marauder's Map 
that
> Peter Pettigrew *and* Sirius Black were in close proximity to three 
Hogwarts
> students, one of them Harry Potter.  (correct me if it was just 
Peter he
> saw).  Not only did he realize that Sirius had not killed Peter, he 
was
> afraid that another murder or three were about to take place.  
Snape had not
> yet brought the potion.  Yes, Lupin is a werewolf, but he is also 
human, and
> he can also forget something under extreme duress and shock like 
what he saw
> in the Map.  I really think that if a situation like this had not 
arisen,
> there would not have been a problem and he could have taught there 
for years
> without anyone knowing.  And if, for some reason, Snape forgot to 
brew the
> potion or something went wrong with it, there is always the 
Shrieking Shack
> to fall back on.  Remember, Lupin attended Hogwarts as a student, 
and there
> would not have been a mishap if not for the stupidity of one of his 
friends
> and the idiocy/vengefulness of another student.  That mishap was 
also not
> DD's fault, as he did not know that either Sirius or Snape was 
aware of
> anything amiss with Lupin.  If anything, they should have come up 
with a
> better way to make Lupin's friends not wonder where he disappeared 
to every
> month.  Or maybe found a way to home-school Lupin if he's that big 
of a
> danger.  Ok, I'm going to stop here before I start chasing my own 
tail.
> Let's just say as I wrote this section that I believe a whole 
separate
> thread could be started on the pros and cons of DD allowing Lupin 
to both
> attend Hogwarts as a student and teach.
> 

I innermurk want to add:
Think of the shock Lupin must have had when he saw the map that 
night. Petter Petigrew was dead for thirteen years, and now all of a 
sudden he's appearing on the map (which cannot lie). That alone 
would've made me run out to see what the heck was going on. Add to 
that the fact that Sirius Black a murderer (of muggles if not 
Pettigrew) and serious security breech is there as well. Add to that 
the fact that Harry Ron and Hermione three students that Black is 
after are out there as well. Add to that the fact that they're 
rapidly dissapearing off the map and Lupin is the only one who knows 
where they are.....Yeah, I can see him running out there without 
thinking. And I don't blame him for it.

Queen of serpents continues:
> > 2) Does not take Snape seriously when he suggests that Lupin 
knows how
> Sirius
> > Black is getting into the castle. Snape flies way off the handle 
here,and
> > most of his accusations are unfounded, but he is right to a 
point, Lupin
> is
> > hiding the fact that Sirius is an Animagus. (MD aside, though I 
love that
> > theory..waves at the Safe House)
> >

Kelly Grosskreutz continues:
> I just made a tangential post on this a few minutes ago.  Yes, D 
did screw
> up here, if nothing else, for being arrogant enough to believe that 
he has
> all bases covered.  I theorized that part of Snape's job is to help 
D see to
> the safety of the school, and here he is ignoring the advice of his 
Security
> Chief.  Lupin *did* know about secret ways into the school that 
very few
> knew about, ways that D doesn't even seem to be aware are there.  
Snape, in
> his ranting, tries to alert D to the possibility, but is summarily
> dismissed.
> 

I innermurk add:
WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!!!!!!! First of all I don't see DD as being arrogant 
here at all! He has a person in the DADA job that knows what he's 
doing, and has helped to fight with him in the past (the old crowd). 
He has no idea that Sirius is an animagus and neither does Snape. 
What he *does* know is that Snape is seriously predjudiced against 
Lupin, so he has to take everything Snape says about Lupin with a 
grain of salt (or two or three). Now, we don't know that he didn't 
question Lupin a time or two...especially after Black breeched the 
castle security. In fact, I believe he probably did. He has no reason 
to distrust Lupin's word.

Innermurk