Arthur and Molly Weasly

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 58540

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, jodel at a... wrote:
> bboy_mn' writes:
> 
> << During this conversation about Ogg the grounds/game keeper, Molly
>Weasley does NOT reminise about Hargrid or mention him in anyway.  >>



> 
> It suddenly occurs to me that Molly may not have mentioned Hagrid 
> in her Ogg stories BECAUSE Hagrid is still on staff and one of her 
> kids' teachers. ...edited...
> 
> Besides, we don't even *know* that Molly *didn't* mention Hagrid. 
> Rowling doesn't actually repeat any of the anecdotes that Molly 
> related, just tells us that Ogg figured in them.  ...edited..
> 
> -JOdel

Bboy_mn:

The mention of Ogg is in narative. That is, Harry or the narator are
relating to us the general nature of the conversations. A whole
morining in a few short sentences. In a sense, it is related as
Harry's memory of the event. The quote-

"Harry has a very enhoable moring walking over the sunny grounds with
Bill and Mrs. Weasley, showing hem the Beaubatons carriage and the
Drumstrang ship. Mrs. Weasley was intrigued by the Whomping Willow,
which had been planted after she had left the school, and reminised AT
LENGTH about the gamekeeper before Hagrid, a man called Ogg."

The books have mentioned several times that Hagrid doesn't talk about
that time of his life (his expulsion). Although in CoS, we do find out
what happened, it has never been discussed by H/R/H and Hagrid in the
books; his feelings, how hard it was to see the other kids become
wizards, how long it took to finish his apprenticeship, etc.... I
firmly have to believe if Molly had spoken of Hagrid in even the most
general way, Harry would have been intrigued and curious enough by it
to have made a mental note of it. In a sense, the narative we read,
are Harry's mental notes. If it was about my friend, I would have
certainly been very attentive to what was said. So, lacking any
mention in narative about Hagrid in this conversation, I still take
the stand that Molly and Arthur were at Hogwarts before Hagrid.

Molly wouldn't have had to go into all the 'escapades' of Hargrid, it
could be something as simple as, 'I remember seeing Hargid following
Ogg around every day as Ogg preformed his gamekeeping duties'. I do
agree with you that Molly probably wouldn't have gone into intimate
personal stories about Hagrid, but even without that there would be
plenty to say. And this wasn't Molly in a conversation with all of her
kids; it was Bill, her oldest, and Harry. This was a very personal
private conversation. That would have certainly opened to door for
some basic comments that Molly would not have said, in general public
conversation.

We need to look at what is likely, not what is possible. It is
possible that Molly went to school at the sametime as or after Hagrid,
but I personally don't think it is very likely.

Just a thought.

bboy_mn