Harry's sacrifice

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 58612

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "vixx_y" <vixx_y at y...> wrote:
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> ...would Harry be prepared to sacrifice in his fight? I think that
> he would give his own life without a thought - but what if he had 
> to give Hermione's, or Ron's? I think he could give those two, 
> actually. 
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> Any thoughts?
> 
> Vix


bboy_mn:

We are sliding on the very sharp edge of symatics here.

Would Harry sacrifice himself?

Yes, he has proven that many times.


Would Harry allow someone else to sacrifice themselves?

Yes, sort of. Harry allowed Ron to sacrifice himself in the chess
game, but he resisted the idea until Ron convinced him it was the only
way. In the end, he didn't allow Ron to sacrifice himself, he merely
respected Ron's decision to do so. 


Would Harry ask someone to sacrifice themselves?

No, he would let them, but he wouldn't ask them. Harry is selfless, he
doesn't ask people for help. When Harry went after the Stone, he
didn't allow Ron and Hermoine to come along. He didn't ask them to
come, or expect them to come, or encourage them in any way. He was
going, that was that. If they decided to come along, then he respected
their decision, but the only choices or allowances he made were based
on his own actions. I'm very sure he was glad they came with, but he
seems surprised when Hermoine and Ron act as if it were alway assumed
that they would come along. Harry made his own choice for himself, and
he allowed others to choose for themselves.

So would he ask someone to sacrifice themselves? No.


If Harry were ask to allow someone to be sacrificed for a substantial
'greater good', would he agree? Would he do it? 

As in - "Harry we have found a way to defeat Voldemort, but for this
to happen, you have to send Ron to his certain death. Will you do it?" 

Without a doubt, the answer would be, 'No, we'll just have to find
another way'.

The alternative - "Harry we have found a way to defeat Voldemort, but
for this to happen, you must choose to go to your certain irreversable
death. Will you do it?"

Without a doubt, the answer would be YES.

Harry would never choose for someone else to be sacrificed. He might
be force to go along with it, or he might resign himself to it
happening, but to the extent that it was in his control, he would
never choose it or allow it, and he would work with every fiber of his
being to find some way to avoid it. 

Harry has always selflessly sacrificed himself for the greater good,
and he has never asked for anyone to help him do it. He makes his
decision for himself, if other choose to come along, he respects that
choice, but it is a choice that is independant of his own. That fact
that Harry gambled and WON shouldn't be held against him; it shouldn't
 deminish his offer to sacrifice himself.

Just a thought.

bboy_mn