Bertha and Barty

[Ersatz Harry]

No: HPFGUIDX 58734

Ah, I see why I was confused.  Bertha found out about Barty from
Winky, as you mention.  Presumably Bertha knew Barty was a DE from the
trial, but that needn't have been the case; all Voldemort needed to
know was that young Barty was still alive.  The way Voldemort phrased
things in the graveyard, though, he made it sound as if Bertha had
said the part about "if only he could find him" or whatever the exact
words were.  It almost sounded as if Bertha passing on the useful part
of the knowledge in a semi-helpful way.  Sounds like I misattributed a
bit here.

Thanks for the clarification.

Ersatz Harry, prepared for the onslaught of corrections from people
who read my note and reply before reading Huggs Becky's response

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Becky Walkden
<runningbecky2002 at y...> wrote:
> 
> BECKY:  Actually, if you remember Winky's testimony, Bertha came
over one day when Crouch wasn't home.  She overheard Winky talking to
Crouch Jr. under the invisibility cloak and was able to figure out who
was under it.   When Crouch Sr. came home she confronted him but he
used a memory charm on her.  This may have contributed to her
forgetfullness as Serius Black indicated she wasn't real sharp but
definitely wasn't forgetful. 
> 
> Crouch Jr. told us that it was only under torture that Voldemort was
able to break through the memory charm and discover that Crouch Jr.
was being held at the house.
> 
> Huggs Becky