[HPforGrownups] Plumbing

[manawydan]

No: HPFGUIDX 58823

Sgrifennodd Pshemikan
>That raise interesting question: how old is WW? I mean, when exactly
>Wizards and Muggles created their separate societies? Was it first
>cities (8000 BC?), ancient Egypt (4000 BC?), ancient Greece (400 BC?),
>or perhaps Charlemagne (800 AD?). One might wonder if WW suffered the
>same setbacks as Muggle societies -- Dark Ages in Medieval Times, black
>death and the like...
>I personally belive, that such separation took place in ancient Sumer or
>Babylon (3000-2000 BC), because there were a civilisation as we know now
>with laws, schools, letters, banks, diplomacy, spies and of course magic.

There are two (not unrelated) points to think about here.

The first one would be: when did wizards first emerge among human beings,
the second: when did wizards first become aware that they were different
from muggles and had things in common with each other.

I don't think the two were necessarily at the same time. Certainly as
wizardly powers manifested themselves in human communities, it's likely that
the wizard would become the village shaman, medicine man, or whatever. But
of course that person wouldn't be conscious of being different in the sense
that WW wizards are aware.

For that, I would suggest that it would come at the point that enough people
were gathered together in communities for there to be more than one or two
wizards at a time, enough for them to get together, compare notes, and begin
to generate the sense of separate self-awareness that they have now.

Once there was sufficient sense of wizard community, i would suggest that
separate histories would have begun, and that wizards would have begun to
divorce themselves from the concerns of muggles. The actual descent into
secrecy was (IIRC) late in the 17th century but I think that that event came
long after the WW had the necessary institutions to make it work.

Cheers

Ffred

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