Quirrell and the Troll

pickle_jimmy kemp at arcom.com.au
Thu May 29 03:26:14 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 58860

Pickle Jimmy said:
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> Now my Question(s): 
> Wouldn't the other staff have known what each one was doing to 
> protect the stone - especially if it involved large three headed 
> dogs, or stinky mountain trolls? 
> And... If they knew about Quirrell's gift with trolls, wouldn't 
that 
> raise questions regarding the earlier fainting episode? 
> And... Why did he knock the troll out - surely if he'd just got 
round 
> it it would have made a great rear-guard?
> 

Nic Replied:
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> No, the other teachers don't know about each others enchantments - 
Quirrell 
> had to investigate each one in order to get to the stone, which is 
why it took 
> him a year to attempt it.  Snape several times asked him how far he 
was 
> getting, and of course the most obvious one was Fluffy, because its 
the first thing 
> he faces at Halloween.  Of course the teachers knew that each other 
was 
> protecting the stone, since Hagrid knew there were other 
enchantments, but they 
> don't know what they are.  Quirrell was expecting to just see the 
stone once he 
> got past all of them but of course, Dumbledore's last enchantment 
he hadnt 
> bothered to research.  Because he wasnt expecting it.  I am 
guessing, that every 
> teacher knew about Fluffy because they would have to know to keep 
students away 
> from the 3rd corridor.  So, with them not knowing about Quirrells 
gift with 
> Trolls, they wouldnt of suspected anything on Halloween (except for 
Snape).


Pickle Jimmy blocks the attempt to score:
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Far be it from me to argue :-) BUT...
In your response to my question you state 
 1) "the other teachers don't know about each others enchantments"

This is a quote from PS/SS when Hagrid tells HRH who is garding the 
stone...

Harry knew Ron and Hermione were thinking the same as he was. If 
Snape had been in on protecting the Stone, it must have been easy to 
find out how the other teachers had guarded it. He probably knew 
everything -- except, it seemed, Quirrell's spell and how to get past 
Fluffy.

So, if HRH thought that those involved in protecting the stone would 
at least know what each other had used, where is the Canon that says 
they didnt?


 2) "Quirrell had to investigate each one in order to get to the 
stone, which is why it took him a year to attempt it"
 3) "Snape several times asked him how far he was getting"

The only occasion that I could find in which Snape confronts Quirrell 
is after the Quidditch match when they go in to the forrest...

"... d-don't know why you wanted t-t-to meet here of all p-places,
Severus..."
"Oh, I thought we'd keep this private," said Snape, his voice icy.
"Students aren't supposed to know about the Sorcerer's Stone, after
all."
Harry leaned forward. Quirrell was mumbling something. Snape 
interrupted him.
"Have you found out how to get past that beast of Hagrid's yet?"

Which suggests that the main unknown obstacle in getting to the stone 
was Fluffy - I found no evidence that Quirrell investigated any other 
staff, or any other occasion when Snape interrogated him (though I 
stand to be corrected)


So, back to my original question - I, like HRH, assumed that all the 
teachers that were protecting the stone would have at least has some 
idea of the other "enchantments" - especially if it were something 
large and dangerous like Fluffy or a Troll. So why weren't the staff 
suprised with wimp!quirrell at halloween?

Pickle Jimmy






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