Fidelius (Re: Chapter Discussions: Chapter 4, Number Twelve, Grimmauld Place)

[Donna]

No: HPFGUIDX 83975

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> 
> It seems that people who know the secret, but aren't themselves 
> the secretkeeper, can't reveal it to anybody else. Dumbledore 
> says that because Kreacher is not Secret Keeper for the Order, 
> he can't reveal where the headquarters is.
> 
> Judging by what Flitwick said, even if  Sirius took Voldemort right 
> up to the Potters' window, Voldemort still wouldn't be able to see 
> them, or even realize that they were there. Only Peter could give 
> them away. But once the house was destroyed, it no longer 
> exisited and the spell couldn't hide it anymore.
> 
> I would guess that Dumbledore and Sirius were both let in on 
> the secret by Peter (though Dumbledore thought it was Sirius), 
> but couldn't themselves reveal it to anyone else. 
> 
> Pippin

When the members of the first order discovered there was a traitor in 
their midst, they found out that LV had specifically targeted the 
Potters once again.  Suspicions were cast upon Remus, for what reason 
we do not know.  Yet, they could not give away that they knew there 
was a spy amongst them.  No one would suspect Sirius because of his 
relationship with James.  

It was obvious to everyone that the Potters would have to go into 
hiding.  So, DD volunteered to be the secret keeper, but James did 
not want to put DD in any more danger than he already was.  He 
convinced DD to use Sirius, but Sirius thought that Peter would be 
the better keeper.

Now as to the secret itself.  I don't think that it was the fact that 
they were in Godrick's Hollow.  I believe it was the fact that they 
remained in their house.  That's why Flitwick said LV could walk 
right up and look into the house and still not find them.  So, 
Godrick's Hollow was obviously not the secret.  They performed the 
charm on Peter and swept him away to a safe place.  Now, remember 
that it was a week after the charm was performed that the Potters 
were given up and they were murdered.

Obviously, Peter was being watched.  Perhaps Peter was given the 
opportunity to betray the Potters because a Mundungus like incident 
happened with Peter.  He saw his opportunity to tell LV and off he 
went.  Sirius had gone to check on Peter.  Why did he feel the need 
to go to check?  Perhaps, like what happened to Harry in OotP, the 
guard was discovered to have disappeared.  I suspect that once the 
charm was performed on Peter, he did tell Sirius where the Potters 
were.  Why else would Sirius go to Godrick's Hollow after Peter was 
discovered to be missing.  I cannot see James not having Sirius know 
where he, Lily and Harry were.  But since Sirius was not the secret 
keeper he could not reveal the location.

I also think that Peter did tell DD where the Potters were.  Again, 
not being the secret keeper, DD could not reveal the location where 
they were hiding.  Thus when the secret was revealed and the Potters 
were murdered, the secret was broken, and DD could tell Hagrid where 
to go to get Harry.

Of course, I could be wrong...

D