Sirius and Alchemy,again (Re: Sirius quite capable)
iris_ft
iris_ft at yahoo.fr
Wed Nov 5 21:31:49 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 84162
Sorry,but I'm not sure I managed to send this post correctly the
first time. Of course, the nice list-elves can cancel it if it's
already on the board!
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt"
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
(snip)
> Lots of plot twists in the books to date; I'd not be surprised if
> Sirius constituted another.
>
> His unexpected demise plus Harry's reaction would be a prime
> counterpoint to startling revelations indicating that he was
> not what he seemed.
>
> Why knock him off in Book 5 of seven? The suggestion that this
> somehow enhances Harry's passage into emotional maturity is
> post facto rationalisation IMO. Fans were having great difficulty
in
> coming up with a good plot line justifying it and so descended
> into pop psychology to find an acceptable reason.
>
> But just suppose that there is a plot line to his death and that
his
> disappearance makes Harry safer....
>
> Kneasy
> Who can hear the screams of outrage already.
Hi Kneasy,
Though Sirius is my favourite character after Harry, I won't put the
blame on you for writing that the plot line needed him to die. Of
course he was a perfect confident for Harry; of course, as Steve
pointed it in the post that started that threat, he had "the
independent and adventurous spirit of youth".
He was a comforting reflection for Harry; he understood him rather
well, and was a male figure Harry could easily identify with (I
remember by the way that I posted something about that subject last
summer
however I don't remember the title).
But I'm not sure that the fascination Sirius did exert over Harry
was actually a good thing.
What Steve wrote concerning his " independent and adventurous spirit
of youth"
(sorry Steve, I should have quoted your post too) is very
interesting. It shows that Sirius was in a certain way unable to
pass completely the gap between the teenager we see in the Pensieve
scene and the adult man he had become.
Teenage Sirius was like the Favourite in King James's world. He
probably knew that James would have done everything to please him,
even reprehensible acts like bullying Snape. Okay, some will say
that, being certainly miserable in his own family, Sirius needed
James's affection. He was not his mother's favourite child, but he
could find compensation with James, etc, etc
But debating this is not my purpose here. What I'm trying to
explain, is that Sirius, in a sort of way, was still mentally a
teenager. We can understand him. How wouldn't he have missed the
time he was 15, the time he had a friend who was like a brother, the
time he was one of Hogwarts top guys? How wouldn't he have tried to
recover what 12 years in Azkaban had broken? Harry was there,
looking like James. Though he was a responsible godfather, Sirius
couldn't help trying unconsciously to play the same game he used to
play with James.
That's why one time he blames his godson for not looking enough like
his father. Poor Harry
Did he really deserve that?
I myself don't like what I'm about to write, but Harry is better
alone than suffering Sirius's grieves.
One of the HP series lessons is that the past is the past. You may
change it a little with a Time Turner, but you can't change it
completely. And above everything, you must overpass it, that's the
sine qua non condition if you want to live. Harry saved Sirius in
PoA, giving him an opportunity to live and to go on. But Sirius
didn't manage to take completely this second chance, and because of
that, the sentence was only deferred. Sirius could only die, because
he wasn't able to go further, psychologically and metaphorically.
That's what JKR means, IMO, when she writes that entering Sirius's
home was like entering a dying person's home.
>From the moment when Harry saved his life to the moment he passed
beyond the Veil, Sirius did nothing but dying a little day by day,
mentally, because he couldn't overpass his own past.
I was very sad when he went away. But for Harry, it's better that
way, though he's suffering, though he's alone, though he feels
guilty. That's the lesson he has to take from his own reflection in
the small mirror at the end of the book: he can't see nothing but
his own eyes, i.e, he can face clearly the problem, and this problem
is him. He has to cope with what he is, with what he has done, with
what he has to do. He has to face the scar, as I wrote one day, that
means to open his "inner eye" to make the right choices.
He must do it on his own. Sirius was too much prisoner of the past
to help him to go further.
John Granger's article helped me a lot to understand why Sirius had
to die.
I was convinced since my first reading of the books that Alchemy was
a huge key to understand them completely, and I'm glad to find in
the article a confirmation.
It's particularly relevant in Sirius's case. Just some quotes:
" Order of the Phoenix is the nigredo volume of the series.
Harry is burnt up, broken down or dissolved, and bled until
everything that he thought he wasstar Quidditch player, his best
friend's superior, pet of the headmaster, lover of his school, son
and spitting image of a great man, victim of the Dursleys, valiant
enemy of Snape, even his being the hero and man of action in time of
crisisis taken from him or revealed as falsehood. The boundaries of
his world collapse; magical enemies come to his home with the Dur-
sleys, and Aunt Petunia knows about them. The Dursleys' house is no
longer a sanctuary, however miserable, and Hogwarts is no longer
edifying or any joy to him.
The world is no longer separated into good guys and bad guys. Harry
has been reduced to his formless elements. Whether the white stage
is to follow this black novel, however, and a climax to follow in
the seventh and final book turning on Hagrid the Red, Order of the
Phoenix is Rowling's nigredo volume."
Nigredo volume, Black volume. Metaphorically, Sirius is an
ambivalent figure. He's there to give Harry some affection, but also
to make him suffer, with his loneliness, with his grieves, with his
death. He's at the same time a model (because he loves his godson,
he's ready to risk his own life) and an example of what Harry
mustn't do (because he's too emotional, he acts in such a way it
ends in a disaster). That's enough to make him one of the greatest
characters in the series
and that's enough to make him disappear,
in order to give Harry the opportunity to go further. Thanks to
Sirius, because of him, Harry is burnt up, as John Granger writes.
Speaking of Kingsley Shacklebolt, he says also that he is a figure
of the "black king". He adds the black king "must die, usually by
drowing". Couldn't we comment that it is precisely what Sirius does
when he falls in the dark waters of the waving Veil? He leaves Harry
alone, "burned to a cinder" to take Granger's words. He leaves him
ready to a new initiatory journey. He accomplished his mission, and
we , readers, have to accept that.
Amicalement,
Iris, waiting for "Harry Potter et l'Ordre du Phénix", with the
unrealistic hope that Sirius won't die in the French version.
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