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[moorequests]

No: HPFGUIDX 84381

> moorequests======
> As for there being 'canon' for every ship out there...
> frankly, there has not been canon for a Harry/Hermione
> relationship ever since the books started. There has
> been canon for a Harry/Hermione friendship. I know some
> of you want to roast me on this- go ahead. 
>  
> Samnanya
> =================
> IMO Hermione prefers Harry to Ron, and I presented my
> arguments for this in 79495. This is not denying that
> there are many clues for other ships as well, and I feel
> that no reader should be suprised WHATEVER the outcome.
> Rebuttals to HH ship relating to my response in 79497
> and 79521.

 M.M.

  Can you please quote me the relevant parts you find most strongly 
enforce your argument? I don't find numbers to be very convincing. 
While I appreciate being given the numbers, I don't really know what 
part of the posts you are referring, and it would be difficult for me 
to create a post of rebuttal to your argument. I supplied many 
different examples of Harry's indifferance to Ron and Hermione's 
relationship, their jealousy of each other when dating/flirting with 
others, and their ability to be in close physical contact without 
feeling the slightest bit uncomfortable, even when young adolescents. 
This should really send a message about the lack of sexual tension. 
The only quotes I HAVE found are those that support friendship, which 
there are plenty of. However, if you want to continue this 
discussion, please do supply me with some quotes from either the 
books or from your previous posts, so I have somewhere to begin. 

> Samnanya
> The RH vs HH argument goes more to the "opposites
> attract" (RH)  vs. "will Harry ever get his head out of
> his butt and notice that Hermione really does love him?"
> (HH) schools of thought. And if you think that there isnt 
> at least SOME attraction between Hermione and Harry, at
> least on Hermione's part, well...

  M.M. 
   I am sorry, your last line just seems to be implying that *I* 
should get my head out of my butt. If that is true, then you must at 
least present some evidence on behalf of your case. :)  

   All I really can reply is that I honestly have nothing invested in 
either relationship- I call it like I read it, and I have read 
nothing between Harry and Hermione. The strongest evidence lies in 
the fact that Rowling herself has said in seperate interviews that 
she identifies with both Harry and Hermione, and has put large parts 
of herself in both characters. You can find these statements, well, 
one of them, in the Albert Hall interview, I believe, given this past 
June. As for the other, that will require a bit more searching, and 
I'll do my best to pull it up. But I believe the exact statement she 
made was something along the lines of the fact that Harry had a lot 
of herself in him- that was why it was so easy for her to write from 
a young boy's perspective. As for Hermione, she mentioned that she 
used to be a lot like her when she was younger. I also made 
connections when I realized that both Harry and Hermione's deepest 
fears are essentially the same- Harry is most afraid of the 
Dementors, which Lupin realizes, signify fear itself. What is 
Hermione most afraid of? Fear also- her boggart turned into 
McGonagall who told her bad news about her exam. After thinking this 
over, I realized Harry and Hermione really are based on Rowling. Then 
I turned to Ron's boggart for comparison. What is it? Spiders. 

   It is true that some romantic relationships can be quiet, rather 
than based on opposite attraction, but there must at least be a 
spark, somewhere, and I don't think there can be a spark there when 
the basic soul of both characters is Rowling herself. Perhaps other 
writers might be able to confirm these statements for you. Or, if you 
try writing a story, put in two characters, a boy and a girl, and 
base one upon one part of yourself, and give the other another part 
of your personality. Let the story grow, develop, and flourish; I 
think you will see, if you give the characters free will, that they 
will not seek each other out for romance. 

 -M.M. 


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