Wormtail's silver hand (was: Thoughts on Wormtail's activities in OOTP )
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Sun Nov 9 04:19:36 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 84419
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67"
<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> Iggy McSnurd:
>
> > > Hmmm... Silver hand on a Wizard... Silver vs. Werewolves...
> > >
> > > Think Wormtail might be assigned to make an
assassination attempt on
> > Lupin?
> > >
> > > *hrm*
>
> Carol:
> >
> > I notice that no one responded to this post, but I've been
wondering the same thing, so I revived it. I realize that Lupin in
his human form is apparently immune to silver (and actually
strengthened by wolfsbane, which ought to be poisonous to a
wolf if not to a werewolf), but the silver hand, which seems to
have unusual strength as well as beauty, certainly seems like
the ideal weapon to destroy Lupin in his werewolf form. In other
words, I think Iggy is on to something. (I do think that Peter will
die trying to save Harry, but that won't prevent him from going
after Lupin first.) I'd appreciate your responses on this. (I'm
assuming that Lupin isn't ESE.)<<<
Well, I can't agree with your assumption about Lupin <g>. But I
think Wormtail's silver hand will be instrumental against him,
and maybe Godric's silver sword as well.
-LOTR SPOILER AHEAD:
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There's a possible Lord of the Rings reference in Wormtail's
name, and Wormtongue did kill the traitor Saruman. I think it very
possible that like Wormtongue, Peter was blackmailed as
much as lured into serving the Dark Side and that Lupin is the
real traitor, the one who was supposed to be Voldemort's
second-in-command. Does anybody really believe that's Peter?
Of course Wormtongue didn't have a life debt to Frodo the way
Wormtail does to Harry. It would be very neat if Wormtail could
pay off his life-debt by finishing off ESE!Lupin.
Carol:
> >>>A related question regarding Sirius's schoolboy "prank": If
Snape werea vampire, couldn't he have fought werewolf Lupin in
that form? If we're going by folklore, nothing can kill a vampire but
a stake of holly to the heart, right? Why would he have needed to
learn occlumency or any form of defense against the dark arts if
he were virtually immortal?<<<
There's no fixed canon of vampire lore, folk or literary. Vampire
stories are found all over the world and are extremely various.
There are literary and folk vampires who can walk by day and
breed with humans. The only thing all the legends have in
common is the unnatural thirst, either for blood or life energy.
It seems that Potterverse vampires are hard to deal with, since
the veela-smitten wizard at the World Cup brags of being a
vampire hunter for the Ministry.
But they're referred to as non-wizarding part humans in GoF,
which makes it sounds as if they're living Beings, not Spirits.
Non-wizarding sounds as if they're not supposed to use wands.
So Snape might have been expelled from Hogwarts if his true
nature were discovered. My theory is he's not pure vampire but
another mixed-breed.
Pippin
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