Wormtail's silver hand (was: Thoughts on Wormtail's activities in OOTP )

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Sun Nov 9 04:19:36 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 84419

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> Iggy McSnurd:
> 
> > > Hmmm... Silver hand on a Wizard... Silver vs. Werewolves...
> > > 
> > > Think Wormtail might be assigned to make an 
assassination attempt on
> > Lupin?
> > > 
> > > *hrm*
> 
> Carol:
> > 
> > I notice that no one responded to this post, but I've been 
wondering  the same thing, so I revived it. I realize that Lupin in 
his human form is apparently immune to silver (and actually 
strengthened by wolfsbane, which ought to be poisonous to a 
wolf if not to a werewolf), but the silver hand, which seems to 
have unusual strength as well as beauty, certainly seems like 
the ideal weapon to destroy Lupin in his werewolf form. In other 
words, I think Iggy is on to something. (I do think that Peter will 
die trying to save Harry, but that won't prevent him from going 
after Lupin first.) I'd appreciate your responses on this. (I'm 
assuming that Lupin isn't ESE.)<<<

Well, I can't agree with your assumption about Lupin <g>. But I 
think Wormtail's silver hand will be instrumental against him, 
and maybe Godric's silver sword as well.

-LOTR SPOILER AHEAD:
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There's a possible Lord of the Rings reference in Wormtail's 
name, and Wormtongue did kill the traitor Saruman.  I think it very 
possible that like Wormtongue,  Peter was blackmailed  as 
much as lured into serving the Dark Side and that Lupin is the 
real traitor, the one who was supposed to be Voldemort's 
second-in-command. Does anybody really believe that's Peter?

Of course Wormtongue didn't have a life debt to Frodo the way 
Wormtail does to Harry. It would be very neat if Wormtail could 
pay off his life-debt by finishing off ESE!Lupin.

Carol:
> >>>A related question regarding Sirius's schoolboy "prank": If 
Snape werea vampire, couldn't he have fought werewolf Lupin in 
that form? If we're going by folklore, nothing can kill a vampire but 
a stake of holly to the heart, right? Why would he have needed to 
learn occlumency or any form of defense against the dark arts if 
he were virtually immortal?<<<

There's no fixed canon of vampire lore, folk or literary. Vampire 
stories are found all over the world and are extremely various. 
There are literary and folk vampires who can walk by day and 
breed with humans. The only thing all the legends have in 
common is the unnatural thirst, either for blood or life energy.

It seems that Potterverse vampires are hard to deal with, since 
the veela-smitten wizard at the World Cup brags of being a 
vampire hunter for the Ministry.

But they're referred to as non-wizarding part humans in GoF, 
which makes it sounds as if they're living Beings, not Spirits.
Non-wizarding sounds as if they're not supposed to use wands.  
So Snape might have been expelled from Hogwarts if his true 
nature were discovered. My theory is he's not pure vampire but 
another mixed-breed. 

Pippin







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