non-human students -- Where are they?
yolandacarroll
yolandacarroll at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 11 04:50:59 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 84589
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sbursztynski"
Sbursztynski wrote:
> No, you're not movie-tainted. Flitwick is described as "tiny" many
> times and squeaks in his high voice. But he doesn't *have* to be
non-
> human.
<snip>
True. I'd wondered about that and about Flitwick.
Recently, I had been talking to some friends about
kids that were half-something-other-than human
attending Hogwarts.
We know that wizards do "mingle" with other magical
creatures. Fleur and Hagrid are examples of this.
I always thought it was a "don't ask, don't tell"
kind of thing, since everyone knows what a big
deal some people make about half-breeds like Hagrid.
I also thought that what you were mixed with would
make the difference as well. In GoF, when Fleur
says her grandmother was a veela, I didn't see a
big ruckus breakout and the press was there too,
but when Hagrid is revealed to be part giant the
article causes Hagrid to hide in his cabin.
I don't have "Fantastic Beasts..." with me right
now, however if I recall correctly giants are
portrayed as pretty blood thirsty, then again
Veela don't come off as cuddly either.
Why didn't Fleur get more flak? I have some ideas
about that, but it keeps coming down to some kind
of arbitrary standard.
Sbursztynski wrote:
> It's my sad opinion that non-humans don't often study at Hogwarts.
I
> could be wrong, of course, and missing a reference somewhere.
There's
> Hagrid, of course, who is only half-human, but that wasn't well-
known
> and think of the fuss that was made when the word got out!
>
> Or maybe we just aren't told about the young goblins and such who
are
> in Gryffindor, Ravenclaw, etc.? Somehow I doubt it, though.
Hogwarts was founded by witches and wizards for
witches and wizards. Hogwarts doesn't educate
non-humans.
There have been students who were mixed with
other species, but they were at least part-human.
I had assumed that houseelves, centaurs, goblins,
etc. educated their young in their own way. Their
worlds appear to be very different from the WW and
so, their education would need to be different too.
Think about the law:
"No non-human creature is permitted to carry or
use a wand."
Non-humans couldn't study at hogwarts.
For the magic taught at Hogwarts, a wand is
required.
Hogwarts teaches humans "human magic" perhaps
non-magical creatures' magic is different.
Houseelves', goblins', and centaurs' magic
appears to work very differently. Wouldn't
they need completely different curriculums?
Also, houseelves and centaurs appear to have
different concerns and ways of thinking from
wizards.
The way the WW and their worlds currently stand,
non-humans would need a curriculum better suited
to their magic and culture than Hogwarts.
Yolanda
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