non-human students -- Where are they?

yolandacarroll yolandacarroll at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 11 04:50:59 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 84589

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sbursztynski"  
Sbursztynski wrote:
> No, you're not movie-tainted. Flitwick is described as "tiny" many 
> times and squeaks in his high voice. But he doesn't *have* to be 
non-
> human. 
<snip>

True.  I'd wondered about that and about Flitwick.

Recently, I had been talking to some friends about 
kids that were half-something-other-than human 
attending Hogwarts.  

We know that wizards do "mingle" with other magical 
creatures.  Fleur and Hagrid are examples of this. 

I always thought it was a "don't ask, don't tell" 
kind of thing, since everyone knows what a big 
deal some people make about half-breeds like Hagrid.

I also thought that what you were mixed with would 
make the difference as well.  In GoF, when Fleur 
says her grandmother was a veela, I didn't see a 
big ruckus breakout and the press was there too, 
but when Hagrid is revealed to be part giant the 
article causes Hagrid to hide in his cabin.

I don't have "Fantastic Beasts..." with me right 
now, however if I recall correctly giants are 
portrayed as pretty blood thirsty, then again 
Veela don't come off as cuddly either.

Why didn't Fleur get more flak?  I have some ideas 
about that, but it keeps coming down to some kind 
of arbitrary standard.

Sbursztynski wrote:
> It's my sad opinion that non-humans don't often study at Hogwarts. 
I 
> could be wrong, of course, and missing a reference somewhere. 
There's 
> Hagrid, of course, who is only half-human, but that wasn't well-
known 
> and think of the fuss that was made when the word got out! 
> 
> Or maybe we just aren't told about the young goblins and such who 
are 
> in Gryffindor, Ravenclaw, etc.? Somehow I doubt it, though.

Hogwarts was founded by witches and wizards for 
witches and wizards.  Hogwarts doesn't educate 
non-humans.

There have been students who were mixed with 
other species, but they were at least part-human.

I had assumed that houseelves, centaurs, goblins, 
etc. educated their young in their own way.  Their 
worlds appear to be very different from the WW and 
so, their education would need to be different too.  

Think about the law:
"No non-human creature is permitted to carry or 
use a wand."

Non-humans couldn't study at hogwarts.  
For the magic taught at Hogwarts, a wand is 
required. 

Hogwarts teaches humans "human magic" perhaps
non-magical creatures' magic is different.

Houseelves', goblins', and centaurs' magic 
appears to work very differently.  Wouldn't 
they need completely different curriculums?

Also, houseelves and centaurs appear to have 
different concerns and ways of thinking from 
wizards.

The way the WW and their worlds currently stand, 
non-humans would need a curriculum better suited 
to their magic and culture than Hogwarts.

Yolanda






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