Responsability for Sirius's Death

[sachmet96]

No: HPFGUIDX 84606


> sachmet96:
> >>Number first to blame is Sirius himself. He knew that he shouldn't
> leave the house and did it repeatedly. So he is to blame for his own
> death imo.<<
> 
> HunterGreen:
> Except that his orders had to do with his status as a wanted man, 
> which nothing at all to do with his death. Dicentra put it very 
well 
> in a post back in September (msg:  80172)
> 
> >>Sirius didn't show up at the Ministry because he was stir-crazy,
> cocky, irresponsible, egotistical, or any of that; he showed up for
> the same reason all the others did: to save Harry et al.
 
sachmet96:
I don't see how this makes him not responsible for his own death. He 
knew not to leave the house but did it, the reason why he shouldn't 
leave it is unimportant imo. He left and dies, so it's his fault. If 
he hadn't died then his whereabouts would have been known and he 
would have endangered the people who where seen there with him (can't 
see the Ministry being happy to see it's people associate with an 
wanted man). So he didn't only endanger himself but others as well. 
That's irresponsible imo.
If he didn't act from any of the above emotions then he was clearly 
lucid enough to think about why he shouldn't go and the consequences 
if he did. There were enough members of the Order going, did he think 
he could help Harry more than they could? And he was told to remain 
behind with the task to inform DD! Did he think this was not 
important (good) enough a task to do? He delegated it to Kreacher of 
all people, and DD had warned him that Kreacher could be dangerous to 
them. So again here he acts irresponsible and endangers others. So 
for me the blame lies with Sirius.
Appart from that Snape contacted him to make sure he was at Grimmauld 
Place so Sirius would have known something was up and he shouldn't 
leave the house.


> > like'. But I nontheless think it's mainly his own fault and
> > Lestrange's.
> >
> >
> Kathryn Cawte
> Sirius was killed because he was on the'wrong side' as far as the 
DEs were
> concerned, not because he was Sirius Black. So if Lupin or Tonks or
> Dumledore had been killed in the same battle you'd be blaming them 
for being
> foolhardy would you?

sachmet96
No, because they had reason to be there, but Sirius hadn't. Indeed he 
had another task asigned to him (inform DD) but chose not to do it. 
If he had done as he was told and informed DD then DD would have been 
earlier at the Ministry (so he had to get the information out of 
Kreacher wasting time). DD played the deciding part in the fight, so 
what Sirius did was not only endangering himself but others. That was 
foolhardy and led to his death! If Lupin or anyone of the others had 
died it would have been because it was their job (an unlucky 
expression) not foolhardy.