Avada Kedavra Meaning
Geoff Bannister
gbannister10 at aol.com
Thu Nov 13 07:40:49 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 84908
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67"
<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> Geoff:
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> > There are other examples in HP of possible misuse. The curses
should,
> > I think have a "-us" (Nominative) ending; Cruciatus, Imperius
etc.
> > whereas the command word is a Vocative; Crucio, Imperio etc.
> >
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Carol:
> My Latin is shaky, too, and it's been a very long time since I read
> any, but I was thinking that the -o in "Crucio," "Imperio," etc.,
was
> a verb ending indicating a first-person "doer," as in "amo" (I
love).
> So "imperio" would be "I command." (A vocative is a noun or name
used
> in direct address, e.g., "Brute" for "Brutus," which seems
> inappropriate here.) In any case, I think we're dealing with two
> different parts of speech here, nouns and verbs. In other words, the
> spoken form of the curse is a verb, the name of the curse is a
noun. I
> agree that -em looks like an accusative form, which seems odd, but
> -us in "Cruciatus" and "Imperius" is nominative, as we would
expect.
Geoff again:
My apologies. What I /meant/ to say re Crucio, Imperio etc. is that
they are Imperatives - i.e. command words like "Jump!" or "Be
silent!".
Where's the iron gone this time?
I suppose the use of Latin probably stems from the fact that, in days
gone by, it was a language spoken by the well-educated, was of course
also the language of the established Church and thus acted
internationally as a "lingua franca" much as English does today.
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