[HPforGrownups] Re: Lily's and James' Parents

Vinnia vinnia_chrysshallie at yahoo.co.nz
Thu Nov 13 14:17:30 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 84910

I wrote:
I strongly suspect that one of Lily's parents is still
alive. He(or she) could not take Harry in, because
his(her)blood is only half of Lily's blood.

Harry would probably get to meet Mr/Mrs. Evans in book
6/early book 7, through Mark Evans.

Carol replied:
I agree that Mark Evans is important (and 
distantly related to Harry), but if his parents were
Lily's grandparents, Dumbledore would not repeatedly
have referred to Petunia as Harry's "only living
relative." Also the ages are wrong. Mark is ten years
old in OotP and unlikely to be L and P's first cousin.
<snip>

Me <Vinnia> again:
Sorry, Carol, I should have explained clearer. I did
not mean Harry's grandparents are Mark's parents. What
I meant was that Harry's maternal grandparents are
Mark's paternal grandparents. And only one of them is
still living, not both.

As to Petunia being Harry's "only living relative":
--start quote--
PS/SS ch 1:
"They're the only family he has left now."

Oop p 736 Bloomsbury:
"I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining
relative."
--end quote

Family could mean someone who shared your blood, or a
social unit, a father and a mother and possibly
sibling(s). If Mark's father was not married when DD
made this comment, then he's a living relative, but
not family.

The second quote would kill my theory, but I will make
a feeble attempt to defend it <g>
What if DD means her only relative that stays
behind(in the muggle world)? Mark's father could have
been a wizard. And his mom/dad could be staying in the
magical world. Though not magical, he/she could be a
shopkeeper or a tutor for under-11 magical children or
muggle studies professor or something like that.

The ministry doesn't have a record of any wizards
living in little whinging other than Harry, probably
because Mark's father is no longer living? Or divorced
and living somewhere else?

Jennifer wrote:
Do we know that Lily's parents were muggles?  In some
discussions a few weeks ago, we were surmising the
magical possiblities of Dudley and Petunia.  Some
people believe that Lily is trying to squash the 
magic out of Dudley because Lily wouldn't be able to
stand her own flesh and blood as a wizard, something
she hates more than anything else.  But I believe that
Petunia is a wizard, rather want-to-be- wizard.  

Vinnia:
You meant Petunia, not Lily, right?

Jennifer:
Personally, I think that Petunia is a squib and that
her family was a modest wizarding family way back. 
Petunia was jealous of her sister why?  Because she
had the magic and was welcomed to Hogwarts.  Her
parents were proud and happy because they only got a 
squib with her.  Her hatred of the wizarding world
stems from the fact that Petunia was denied a great
gift. 

Vinnia:
We're all entitled to our own opinion of course, but
I'd be really disappointed if Lily had any magical
ancestry in the last 9 generations.

Harry is not perfect. By giving Lily a magical
ancestry, it makes Harry more perfect in the WW (more
pureblood). I prefer Harry to be a half-blood. If
Lily's muggle-born, then Voldemort was vanguished by
someone who has muggle blood, the very thing Voldemort
hates.

Jennifer:
At the end of OoP we learned that Petunia is
knowledgable of Dementors. 
As a squib she would be able to see them and know of
their horror. If her family were muggles the Evans
family would know nothing of any magic prior to Lily
going off the school and I'm sure that Petunia severed
all magical ties with her sister.  

Vinnia:
Petunia also likes to snoop around. Who says she did
not peek into Lily's textbook when Lily was out?
Other alternative:
Petunia was forced to come with her parents to pick
Lily up from King's cross. A boy (could be
James/Sirius) said," Have a good summer, Evans, don't
get kissed by a dementor!" or something similar.
Lily's mom/dad asked the boy what a dementor is and he
explained. 

Jennifer:
When they did see each other, I'm sure they were not
discussing Dementors and blast ended screwts.

Vinnia:
Agreed. What a morbid topic to discuss over dinner!

Of course, those are just my humble opinions.


Vinnia

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