In Defence of Lupin Part ONE

[justcarol67]

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Carol:
> 
> è Thanks for your lengthy defense of Lupin, much of
> è which I agree with (other than your view of Snape as
> è "horrible"). I do want to mention, though, that Lupin's
> è "deception" is only indirectly related to his relationship
> è with Snape. What he's hiding is the secret Snape
> è wants revealed: that he's a werewolf. He can't be
> è expected to reveal that to Harry, but it's concealment,
> è nonetheless. IMO both teachers are to be commended
> è here, Lupin for his courtesy to Snape and Snape for the
> è loyalty to Dumbledore that results in his making the
> è potion despite his loathing of Lupin, which is partly
> è personal but partly a very real concern for the Hogwarts
> è students who unknowingly are in close proximity to a
> è werewolf.  Carol, who likes Snape but doesn't for a
> è moment think Lupin is evil
> 
> 
Tonks wrote: 
> Carol, LOL! You must know by now that my description of Snape as
'Horrible' 
> was to illustrate a point. Good lord! Both as 'Snuffles" and 'Tonks'
in my time 
> on this list, I have defended Snape as an abused child. ( We'll get
on to 
> THAT defence some other night <wink>) I think I am one of the few
who decribes 
> Snape as Sexy! and that is before the films tainted my brains with
images of 
> Alan Rickman  running through my head. There is a LOT to Snape. And
just in the 
> one instance, he was being horrible. Does he have a defence? YES!.
> -Tonks, eagerly wanting to get on the Snape defence but needing
sleep!


Sorry, Tonks! I did think it was odd that you would use that adjective
to describe Snape, but with all the very long posts last night I
didn't have time to verify that the post welcoming me to the list as
another Snape lover was from you. (I was pretty sure it was.) Well,
you can sit me in the corner on a three-legged stool with the Sorting
Hat as a dunce cap. Or better, just give me detention with sexy Snape.
(We should do a poll to find out how many of the women on this list
find Snape sexy. I'm sure it's a lot more than us two!)

About Sirius coming back (mentioned in your previous post), the only
ways we've seen the dead come back so far (not counting ghosts) are
the short-lived appearances of the specters from the Priori
Incantatem, the talking portraits of dead people, and the memories in
the Pensieve. I suppose we could also count the waving photographs and
the unspeaking images in the Mirror of Erised, but those are only
memories that Harry can't really interact with. Nearly Headless Nick
has already told him that Sirius probably won't come back as a ghost
(though Nick could be wrong) and Harry has discovered that the two-way
mirror Sirius gave him is useless for communicating with a dead
person. The memories in the Pensieve talk and move but he can't
interact with them. I don't think there's a portrait of Sirius at 12
Grimmauld Place (or anywhere else), so we're left with Harry dying
himself (which I don't want to happen and which won't show us Sirius)
or hearing his voice behind the veil in the DoM--unless ex-Professor
Trelawney can conjure up his spirit, which I'm willing to bet she
can't. Also JKR has said in interviews (with reference to James and
Lily) that the dead can't return. And the fact that Harry's two-way
mirror doesn't work confirms for me that Sirius is really dead. So I
think Sirius's memory will influence Harry in some way (no doubt
temporarily intensifying his hatred of Snape), but I can't see Sirius
himself playing a major role.

BTW, it's interesting that Snape lovers can defend other characters
who sometimes oppose him. So often people think that if you like a
character or historical person, you have to dislike his or her rivals.
I hope no one minds my citing Percy Shelley's first and second wives
as an example. Most defenders of Harriet Shelley feel compelled to
attack Mary Shelley and vice versa. I like the fact that you can
defend both Lupin and Snape. I sense a kindred spirit in Siriusly
Snapey Susan, too. I love that ID, which seems to pop into my head
every time I think about this list.

Carol, who is sorry to disagree with you after such a nice post