Sirius can't be dead

dj_bagshaw kate_bag at hotmail.com
Sun Nov 23 20:11:06 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 85752

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sploogal" <sploogal at y...> 
wrote:
> Hi!  Sploogal here.
> I was absolutely distraught when I read the bit where Sirius
> supposedly dies - I cried for hours!  (He was my favorite 
character.)
>  I refused to even look at the book for a month afterwards.
> I've been doing some thinking though, and I don't think that he 
really
> is dead at all - it just seems that way.
> First of all, the whole of PoA centres around Sirius and introducing
> him as James' best friend and a very loyal and trustworthy person. 
> Yes, PoA is about other stuff as well, but one of the main things in
> it is Sirius.  If JKR has devoted an entire book to Sirius, it seems
> unlikely that she would kill him off two books later without a 
really
> good reason.  Can anybody think of a really good reason as to why
> Sirius had to be killed?
> I can think of a lot more reasons for him to stay alive, one of the
> most important of these being that he's a father-figure to Harry. 
> He's the person that Harry turns to for advice and comfort.<snip>

Now Kate - 

I think that we have yet to see the true effect that the death of 
Sirius has on Harry.  Like everything in Rowling's books, this point 
is going to come up again and again, and I believe that (as much as 
you don't want to think it's true), Sirius is really gone.

First of all, Rowling herself says that she cried and cried after she 
killed of Sirius.  I doubt she would have reacted in such a way if 
she knew he wasn't really gone.

Second, I do believe Dumbledore, in a secondary way, tells us that 
Sirius is gone.  When he is talking to Fudge at the end of OoP (in 
the MoM after the fight with Voldemort), he tells Fudge that he 
can "...find several escaped Death Eaters contained in the *Death 
Chamber* bound by an Anti-Disapparation Jinx..." (OoP, UK ed, p 721 - 
emphasis mine).  We know that these Death Eaters are contained in the 
room with the veil; thus this room is apparently the "Death Chamber" 
Dumbledore is talking about.  We know that in the Department of 
Mystries, the unspeakables study love, time, thought...why not 
death?  And note that just as Ron was affected by the thought 
contained in that room, and just as the death eater was affected by 
time in its room, Sirius is also affected by death in the Death 
Chamber.

> <snip>Also, in GoF, when Cedric Diggory was killed, it states 
that "He was
> dead." immediately.  Other characters later say out loud that Cedric
> is dead.
> When Sirius 'dies', nobody actually says out loud that he is dead
> except for Harry.  

Now me - 

If you remember, many people *try* to tell Harry that Sirius is dead, 
but Harry won't hear any of it...Lupin himself tries to day the 
words, but Harry cuts him off.

I would further argue that the death of Cedric Diggory served 
seemingly "no purpose" at first, but when we look back of book 4 
after having read book 5, we see the death was indeed important.  
This is how I think the death of Sirius will play out in book 6.

Having said all of this, I hope you are right in that Sirius isn't 
dead, he was one of my favourite characters...I just am not letting 
myself have any hope at all of his coming back so I won't be 
disappointed if he does. 


~Kate






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