Bang! You're Dead. (was:Voldemorts animus...)

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No: HPFGUIDX 85894

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Berit Jakobsen" <belijako at o...> wrote:
> 
> Hehe, Kneazy: 

I don't want to be *too* stuffy, but please check your spelling.

Berit:
> I never said Voldemort is not going to be destroyed! I 
> just don't think it will happen in a frenzy of hatred from 
> Harry; "Take that!" *splash* and "take this" *the breaking of bones* 
> and "serves you right" *splat; tearing out Voldemort's eyes*... 

Kneasy:
Why ever not? Doesn't he deserve it?


Berit:
> This 
> is hard. I am not denying book 5-Harry seems to harbour a lot of 
> hatred in his heart (at the end of book five a lot of it is directed 
> against Snape). But you must admit the way Rowling writes, she opens 
> up for another way of defeating Voldemort than just doing it the 
> Voldemort way? There's too much talk and insinuations about that 
> mysterious force, the thing Harry has that Voldie hasn't. I'm leaning 
> more against Harry defeating Voldemort the way he "defeated" him in 
> MoM: Not cursing him with the AK, but overwhelming Lord Thingy with 
> his feelings for Sirius; resulting in Voldie having to flee the 
> scene. 


Kneasy:
But that was not defeat, much less destruction. Voldy made a tactical retreat
and he'll be back torturing and killing, just like before. Can't allow that
sort of thing to go on indefinitely. It upsets the neighbours.
No, he must go through the mincer.

Berit:
> I am not saying harry will not be in a real fight with 
> Voldemort trying to use every spell there is (except the unforgivable 
> ones of course).I can imagine a figthing scene where Harry's magical 
> skills turn out to be inferior to Voldie's, and where Voldie is about 
> to finish him off. Then something unexpected happens like in the 
> graveyard or the MoM scene. That would be consistent with a Rowling's 
> plot.


Kneasy:
Why not  unforgivable curses? After all they are only unforgivable when
used against *people* and Voldy is no longer human. Was  it unforgivable
when Crouch!Moody used them against spiders? No. And Voldy is no better.

JKR can't  keep on distracting us like that. It works quite well a time or two,
but to keep on dodging the issue right through the entire series would be
boring, not to say depressing. In my minds eye I can see millions of teen-
agers, storming the bookshops, demanding blood or their money back.
Nothing more violent  than a  teenagers imagination.

 
Berit: 
> And by the way; New Age-philosophy is certainly NOT my thing :-) I 
> don't want to be put in that category. You know; the notions of love 
> and selfless, (non-violent) heroic sacrifice is also a Christian 
> thought...
 
Kneasy:
Oh. Is Harry a Christian? I  hadn't realised. Where does it say that?
Digging  into my memory I seem to recall that Christianity went in more
for martyrs rather than heroes. That's what happens when non-violence 
meets implacable, murderous intent. Well, I'm not certain that Harry is 
going to survive the series, but at the  very  least I expect  him to take
Voldy down at the same time. Harry martyred and Voldy surviving is a
totally new take, I must admit.

No, I want

Voldy's skin to slough off like lumpy, rancid yoghurt,
Eldritch screams, choked with blood,
Eyeballs that shrivel and smoke,
Guts all over the page, (eaten by Lupin in werewolf mode is a bonus)
Bones cracking,
Ribs splintering with the sound of a stepped-on cockroach,
An exploding head,
A fuming black heart splitting to leak smoking  ichor.

There. That should do it.
After all, I'm not a violent person.

Kneasy