Bang! You're Dead. (was:Voldemorts animus...)

artcase artcase at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 27 02:04:27 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 85938

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Martha" 
<fakeplastikcynic at h...> wrote:
snip, snip, the scissors go again...

> ...I'm inclined to think that defeat will come through 
> something unexpected, and is more likely to involve one of those 
> things worse than death that Dumbledore refers to than death 
itself, 
> and that this is likely to be a thing-worse-than-death that's 
> personal to Voldemort. What this is likely to be I have no idea, 
but 
> I don't think it's having your entrails Accio'd (not matter how 
cool 
> the phrase "Accio entrails!" is.) :-)


Art:
ROTFLMHO..accio entrails....But seriously, the real reason I wanted 
to reply was because this next part...

Martha wrote:
... I don't think he'll learn to be a nasty, mean person so he can 
effectively throw AK or the Cruciatus curse. I think when it comes 
down to it he'll win because he's good and he's not evil. What would 
be the point if Harry won, but in doing so had more or less become 
Voldemort? To go off on a tangent, one of the moments in OoP that 
really grabbed me was when Harry is kicking off in Dumbledore's 
office, and he shouts, "I don't want to be human!" (no books handy, 
apologies). At the end of the day, Tom Riddle chose not to be human, 
and I'm hoping Harry will choose to carry on being human.

Art:

This is precisely why the series is important and potentially 
effective. The real question is: How does a moral person commit an 
immoral act(murder)?

Soldiers deal with this question. Victims of crimes who fight back 
deal with this question. 

There are (according to Plato) violent and involuntary homicides. 

Involuntary homicides can be defined as accidental death. 

On the other side of the coin there are the violent homicides. 
According to Western law homicide is not murder when it is in 
defence of one's own body or in defense of another person in 
response to an initiation of force.

In other words, Harry cannot morally go looking for a fight. He 
must "kill" Voldemort during a battle that Voldemort initiates. 

Another quick note: Harry, in response to the prophecy, regards the 
killing of Voldemort as "murder." There is no grey to his view. That 
is a point that I believe lies at the heart of this adventure, 
the "greying" of the rules that come with growing up. OR Harry is 
already "premeditating" his murder of Voldemort. In that case, maybe 
he shouldn't live past the end of the series....

Art.





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