[HPforGrownups] Re: Bang! You're Dead. (was: Voldemort's animus...)

[Astrid Wootton]

No: HPFGUIDX 86010

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> Large snips
> 
> Kathryn 
> 
> < You say that Voldemort has
> done things to Harry in the past which make it justified for Harry to kill
> him. I say that that is vigilanteism. No individual has the right to decide
> to cold bloodedly kill someone just because, in their opinion, they deserve
> it. I refuse to believe that after the moral lessons and such that we have
> seen in the books (our choices are what define us, discriminating against
> other 'racial groups' is wrong etc) the finale is going to say that killing
> someone is OK if you're a hero normally and anyway he was a really bad
>> >person.
> snip
> 
> Kate
>> > It's not like Voldemort can just be locked up or anything.  He can't
>> > be put into jail and rehabilitated.  He's not just going to decide
>> > one day that he doesn't want to try to rule the wizarding world
>> > anymore.  It's just not going to happen.
> 
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>> >
> Kathryn     
> 
>> >If Harry abandons all sense of morality and kills someone in cold blood
> *anyone* then frankly I'd rather he *didn't* survive. if Harry has to kill
> Voldemort in a fight then fine, I have no problem with him doing so in
> self-defence (or defence of another for that matter). But if Harry has the
> option to capture/contain/or not kill Voldemort in some way and chooses to
> kill him anyway then really i don't care about him anymore. And Voldemort is
> not a virus he is a sentient being (I'll leave the issue as to how human he
> is open). No I haven't seen 28 days later btw.
> 
> Astrid says
> 
> Over numerous posts about Harry¹s moral obligations, my mind has been drawn to
> Hamlet¹s dilemma. ³Now I might do it pat while he is praying.² But if he does,
> Claudius¹ soul will go to heaven. That¹s a kindness he doesn¹t deserve. So he
> postpones the moment of truth, and Polonius, Ophelia, Gertrude, Laertes,
> Claudius and Hamlet all die as a result of that decision.
> 
> By and large we in the audience all wish he¹d just get on with it and bring
> his father¹s vengeance down sooner rather than later. We may agonise with
> Hamlet ŒO cursèd spite/ That ever I was born to set it right!¹
> 
>  But we accept the moral imperative, and just wish he¹d get on with it !
> 
> Is it because it was written 400 years ago that we accept this world view
> without the squeamishness we feel for Harry? (And Voldemort beats Claudius any
> day when it comes to the point. Claudius *only* killed father Hamlet ‹ that we
> know of, anyway.
> 
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