Severus / Eagle / Raven / Rook / Killing Curses /

Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) catlady at wicca.net
Sat Nov 29 06:52:03 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 86053

Arcum wrote in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/85825 :

<< Actually, I don't think Snape will be talking about how nice it was
to get rid of Sirius, any more then he does about James. >> 

Sorry, I wasn't clear! I didn't mean Snape will be saying how nice it
is that Sirius is gone because he means it (quite the contrary: he'll
be feeling frustrated at not having Sirius to taunt). I meant he'll be
saying it in order to annoy Harry, Lupin, and anyone else he can annoy.

Suzanne wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/85865 :

<< I predict that Snape will sacrifice himself in order to save Harry
so that Harry can fulfill the prophecy and kill Voldemort. >>

And Snape will be ecstatic at the opportunity to guilt-trip Harry for
the whole rest of his life.

Margaret Dean wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/85840 :

<< Rowling may have wanted to avoid the negative connotations of the
raven, but IMHO it would be a better mascot than the eagle for the
"intellectual" house; the raven is one of the most intelligent birds
out there. >>

Mark Christianrooster wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/85838 :

<< Though both are also scavengers, >>

Ravens are intelligent and good flyers and black-haired, that is,
-feathered, and when I tried to think what would the Trio's Animagus
forms be if they became Animagi (which JKR has said in an interview
that Harry won't), raven was my first choice for both Harry and
Hermione. And maybe blue jay for Ron.

In heraldry, the eagle is the King of Birds and symbolizes power and
nobility rather than scavenging. The lion is the King of Beasts. I
fantasize Rowena (whom I imagine red-haired and quite young) seizing
upon the Roman eagle as her symbol in an "I'm as good as you are!"
response to Godric's lion. 

Angel of the North wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/85907 :

<< Rook Barty Crouch Jnr
Knight Rookwood OR Dolohov >>

I don't know about chess, but shouldn't ROOKwood be a Rook? I assume
his family's arms are: on a field argent, spangled with green trees, a
raven-like bird perched on a tower, both black.

Allie wrote in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/85899 :

<< Which I don't understand in the first place, since there is only
one "killing curse," and it's Avada Kedavra- so unless it was that,
how *could* it have killed her? Seems to me like a "heart-stopping"
curse or something along those lines would also be an unforgivable. >>

Avada Kedavra kills a person without any symptom -- the Muggle
coroner's report on the dead Riddles said that except for being dead
they were in perfect health -- but there are curses that will kill
people in other ways. Levitate a heavy rock over their head and then
it drop on them. Shoot ropes out of your fingertips to wrap around the
person's neck, then tighten them to strangle the person. Summon
("Accio!") their heart right out of their chest.

Erin wrote in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/85930 :

<< In PS, Wood compares Harry's and Charlie's flying styles. How would
he be able to do that if he had never seen Charlie fly? I think it
more reasonable to assume Charlie last won in his sixth year. That
way, Wood could have seen him in his first year and Charlie's seventh
year, and yet Wood would never have seen Gryffindor win a Quidditch
cup. >>

Ways in which Wood could have seen Charlie play Quidditch even tho'
they weren't at Hogwarts at the same time:

1) In a world in which all photographs move, Wood could have watched
snapshots of old matches in some sort of scrapbook.

2) Wood watched at least one Hogwarts Quidditch match in the year
before he started at Hogwarts (as Steve bboy_mn detailed in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/85962 )

3) After having left school, Charlie visited Hogwarts to play in an
Former Pupils's match. Hey, maybe that the event five years before
Triwizard Tournament for which Bill visited Hogwarts.

4) Wood saw Charlie play in a pick-up match at a Wood Family Reunion
Picnic while Charlie was dating Wood's older sister.





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