Bang! You're Dead. (was:Voldemorts animus...)

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 29 16:50:23 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 86069

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Berit Jakobsen" <belijako at o...>
wrote:
> Kneazy wrote:
> 
> Oh, dear.
> > As  an enthusiastic afficianado of gore-splattered mayhem I am 
> under-
> > whelmed, nay, distressed by the current  outbreak of touchy-feely
> > new age 'don't let's be nasty to Voldemort.' It seems that although 
> he
> > and his enthusiastic band of supremacist murderers have slaughtered
> > uncounted innocents over the years, all his sins will  be wiped out 
> by
> > the goodness in Harry's heart. Arrrgh!
> 
> Me:
> 
> Hehe, Kneazy: I never said Voldemort is not going to be destroyed! I 
> just don't think it will happen in a frenzy of hatred from 
> Harry; "Take that!" *splash* and "take this" *the breaking of bones* 
> and "serves you right" *splat; tearing out Voldemort's eyes*... This 
> is hard. I am not denying book 5-Harry seems to harbour a lot of 
> hatred in his heart (at the end of book five a lot of it is directed 
> against Snape). But you must admit the way Rowling writes, she opens 
> up for another way of defeating Voldemort than just doing it the 
> Voldemort way? There's too much talk and insinuations about that 
> mysterious force, the thing Harry has that Voldie hasn't. I'm leaning 
> more against Harry defeating Voldemort the way he "defeated" him in 
> MoM: Not cursing him with the AK, but overwhelming Lord Thingy with 
> his feelings for Sirius; resulting in Voldie having to flee the 
> scene. I am not saying harry will not be in a real fight with 
> Voldemort trying to use every spell there is (except the unforgivable 
> ones of course).I can imagine a figthing scene where Harry's magical 
> skills turn out to be inferior to Voldie's, and where Voldie is about 
> to finish him off. Then something unexpected happens like in the 
> graveyard or the MoM scene. That would be consistent with a Rowling's 
> plot.
> 
> And by the way; New Age-philosophy is certainly NOT my thing :-) I 
> don't want to be put in that category. You know; the notions of love 
> and selfless, (non-violent) heroic sacrifice is also a Christian 
> thought...
> 
> Berit

You didn't mention me, Kneasy, but I think I'm the one who brought up
the topic. In any case, I also have no interest in or connection with
New Age or "touch-feely" theories. I simply think that the distinction
between good and evil must be maintained and that Harry must not
succumb to the temptation to kill or inflict pain for pleasure. He
must not become Voldemort's pupil like Bellatrix. The Unforgiveable
Curses are unforgiveable for a reason, and I can't see JKR changing
the rules and allowing him and his friends to use them. He must find
some other way to kill Voldemort, either by causing Voldemort's own
spell to backfire, or, if you prefer, in a fair, heroic, by-the-rule
fight using Godric Gryffindor's sword. Maybe that's the reason the
sword was introduced in the first place. 

Carol, who also thinks that Fawkes the Phoenix will somehow be involved





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