Bang! You're Dead. (was:Voldemorts animus...)

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No: HPFGUIDX 86152

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> 
> You didn't mention me, Kneasy, but I think I'm the one who brought up
> the topic. In any case, I also have no interest in or connection with
> New Age or "touch-feely" theories. I simply think that the distinction
> between good and evil must be maintained and that Harry must not
> succumb to the temptation to kill or inflict pain for pleasure. He
> must not become Voldemort's pupil like Bellatrix. The Unforgiveable
> Curses are unforgiveable for a reason, and I can't see JKR changing
> the rules and allowing him and his friends to use them. He must find
> some other way to kill Voldemort, either by causing Voldemort's own
> spell to backfire, or, if you prefer, in a fair, heroic, by-the-rule
> fight using Godric Gryffindor's sword. Maybe that's the reason the
> sword was introduced in the first place. 
> 
> Carol, who also thinks that Fawkes the Phoenix will somehow be involved


OK, Carol, sorry to have ignored you in my blanket swipe at those who
I consider are being unnecessarily  squeamish. Consider yourself included.

I  just don't get it. Why should Harry kill for pleasure? Probably that taunt
from Bella has wound everybody up. I don't believe her. Full stop. It's a
deliberate mis-lead IMO. Did Peter relish the thought of killing 13 muggles?
Doubt he even thought that far. It was all panic and desperation and on the
spur of the moment. They just got in the way. Colateral damage on the High St.
Did Crouch Snr take pleasure in putting an Imperio! on young Barty? Not likely.
No, Harry's Crucio! in the MoM wasn't very successful because he hadn't done 
it before. When has he ever got a  spell  right first  time? Bella was playing
mind games. Or JKR is. I can hear DD now, "Well, you see  Harry, Bella said
that to stop you using any of those spells on her, but of course, with the
tremendous, unbounded, universal, cosmic love you have for all creatures,
your enemies drop dead from saccharine poisoning anyway."

As an aside, am I atypical in thinking that as the series progresses a few 
of the other characters are becoming more interesting than Harry?
Snape, Dumbledore and Lupin, for example?

No, it'll be *me*  that  takes pleasure in Voldy coming to a sticky end. 
Harry will just feel relief, as will  everybody else in the WW.

Fair fight is out. Voldy will never fight fair. Fawkes and the sword have
already been used once, and when does JKR repeat plot devices for the
resolution of crises? The wands won't work; the conflict occurs at *both*
ends, not just with Harry. There is one  device that has yet to be used -
Peter's silver digits. Probably once again Harry will  be at Voldy's non-
existent mercy and a deus ex machina look-alike has to rescue him yet 
again. He really is a rubbish wizard when he faces Voldy, but he is lucky.

Personally, I  hope it doesn't end with somebody else doing Harry's  dirty
work for him. I'd  consider that a  cop-out. I don't  mind if he strangles
him with the Old School  tie, stuffs a mandrake down his throat, or gives
him a Bowtruckle enema, just so  long as he nails the bastard. Harry didn't
seem to  suffer from any moral misgivings when faced with Sirius in the
Shrieking Shack, so why should he with Voldemort, the beast that zapped
his parents? Anyway,  JKR hasn't bothered much about sparing Harry's any
of feelings in the past five books, so why start now?

Assuming that Harry survives, which I  don't think he will.

Kneasy