Titled characters (aka Sir Nick)

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 86178

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Kathryn Cawte" <kcawte at n...> wrote:
> Jadeau xxx
> 
> > So? It doesn't mean there aren't any. I mean, write that story in
a muggle
> world, set in a muggle boarding school and with the muggle
government. In
> the government there are no lords - also there are none in the MOM.
> Presumably Sir Nicholas was knighted by King Ethelred or whoever was
king at
> the time in England when he was alive (sorry I can't remember) for doing
> something muggleishy worthy, then they guessed he was a 'witch' (was
> witch-burning aorund then? I thought it was Christian-burning) and
cut his
> head off? Or is this out of date thinking about it?
> >
> > Surely beheading people didn't start this early on? Hanging was
popular I
> suppose but as far as I know if the Saxons wanted you dead the would ...
> wait hang on, sorry about that.
> >
> > You could be: stoned, beheaded, hung, burnt, drowned or have your neck
> broken for being any of the following: a traitor, an outlaw, a witch, a
> wizard or a theif.
> >
> > So if Nick was one of these and a Knight? So he did something good and
> then some magic, or what? Please can someone enlighten me on the answer.
> >
> > >
> K
> 
> Well for a start you've moved the poor guy nearly 500 years back in
time!
> 1492 is Henry VII and 7 years after the end of the Wars of the
Roses, not
> anything to do with Saxons at all. We didn't really have large-scale
witch
> burning in this country anyway and I'm fairly certain that what
there was
> was confined to peasants not Knights of the realm. He could well have
> received a knighthood for services to the crown in the Wars of the
Roses or
> maybe just for coming to the King's attention in some other way.
Beheading
> was the traditional punishment for anyone of any importance anyway
so Sir
> Nick would have likely been beheaded regardless of his 'crime'. Botched
> beheading wasn't at all uncommon either btw. As a Knight he would most
> likely have been beheaded for some kind of treason - but since
treason can
> be roughly translated as 'annoying the reigning monarch in some way'
that
> doesn't help much either.
> 
> K

Yes, Henry VII was rather fond of beheading people, especially if they
had Yorkist connections. Sir Nick could have been involved in the
Perkin Warbeck plot, for example--or suspected of it. Alternatively,
he might have been suspected of being a wizard and framed for alleged
involvement in one of the many plots against "the Tydder" (Richard
III's name for Henry Tudor before the Battle of Bosworth Field). 

Carol, who hopes that Sir Nick wore his roses white