Is Peeves a Ghost? was Re: Wizard to ghost?
dj_bagshaw
kate_bag at hotmail.com
Sun Nov 30 18:22:23 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 86181
"meriaugust" <meriaugust at y...> wrote:
> Here's a question that popped into my head while reading the posts
> about titles in the WW. People were discussing Nearly Headless Nick
> and why he is refered to as "sir" ie: what had he done to get
> himself a title and then what had happened to lead to his
beheading.
> Someone suggested that he perhaps had been discovered to be a
wizard
> and was executed for that, but is there any canon evidence to
> confirm that every Hogwarts ghost (or every ghost in the world for
> that matter) was a witch or wizard in life? Moaning Myrtle of
course
> was a Hogwarts stuident, and Professor Binns was boring students
> there for years before his death, but what about Nick and the Fat
> Friar and the Bloody Baron and the Grey Lady? All magical (non-
> Muggle) people in life? Or is Hogwarts merely a haven for ghosts
> regardless of magical status in life? Did the person have to have
> some Hogwarts connection before they haunt there? What about the
> muggles who become ghosts, if any? Do they fall under the
> jurisdiction of the MoM or are they stuck with figuring out their
> post-biological existence on their own? Any thoughts?
Yes, there is *very* clear canon evidence of this...
At the end of OoP, when Harry seeks out Nearly Headless Nick to ask
whether Sirius will become a ghost...
Nearly Headless Nick hesitated, then said, "not everyone can come
back as a ghost."
"What d'you mean?" said Harry quickly.
"Only...only wizards." (UK ed p 758)
So you see, all Hogwarts ghosts *must* have been wizards before.
One other question though...I was rereading PS last night, and
discovered an interesting passage about Peeves:
"He gives us all a bad name and you know, he's not really even a
ghost"
At this point, the speaker/ghost, who isn;t identified but whose
description seems to fit that of Nearly Headless Nick, gets
*interrupted* (and we all know what interruptions mean...)
So, ny question is, why is Peeves not really even a ghost? Is this
important, or was the speaker merely saying that Peeves didn't *act*
like a proper ghost? Is the distinction between ghost and
poltergiest (which I belive Peeves is mentioned as) so great that he
isn't considered a ghost?
Any thoughts?
~Kate
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