Help me understand the importance of the prophecy, please
Tim Regan
tim_regan82 at hotmail.com
Thu Oct 2 08:25:40 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 82067
Hi All,
I've just re-read the prophecy chapter and I'm still hopelessly
confused. Help!
My main problem is that it appears really lame. It doesn't tell
anybody much that they didn't already know.
Here it is again:
1) The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches . . .
2) born to those who have thrice defied him,
3) born as the seventh month dies . . . and
4) the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but
5) he will have power the Dark Lord knows not . . . and
6) either must die at the hand of the other for
7) neither can live while the other survives . . .
8) the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as
the seventh month dies . . .
There are four main stake-holders involved in the prophecy: the
readers, Dumbledore, Harry, and Voldemort, so let's approach the
prophecy from the perspective of each of these stake-holders in turn.
Firstly the reader, i.e. me. I know that Harry is powerful and is
destined for great things, after all each book is titled "Harry
Potter and the". So (1) isn't news. (2) is good news, it's nice to
know how successful James and Lilly had already been, but it's not
earth-shattering news. I can look (3) up on the Lexicon. I've known
(4) since the beginning of Book 1. (5) is tantalizing, but
Dumbledore has alluded to this repeatedly already, starting at the
close of Book 1. Now there is new news in (6). Many of us were
imagining that Dumbledore would die whilst defeating Voldemort, a la
Gandalf and the balrog. But (6) tells us that's not true. (7) is
laughable who really expected the `Voldemort now lives in East
Cheam, tending his garden and helping out at the local pre-school'
ending? (8) is just a repeat. So the whole of an 870 page book
culminates in (6)? Surely not.
Secondly Dumbledore. Now when Dumbledore first heard the prophecy it
must have been an enormous shock. (1) gives him hope, and (2) and
(3) give him big clues as to where to find his newest and greatest
ally. So, presumably he set up the best web of charms he could to
protect Harry and Neville. The Voldemort fulfilled (4) and thus made
Dumbledore's job slightly easier, since he now only needed to
concentrate on Harry. Dumbledore seems very familiar with the
branches of magic that confuse Voldemort, so (5) may not have been
such a shock. (6) must have been a terrible realization, but that's
a separate thread (e.g. message 65909). (7) would have been real
news to Dumbledore too, and increases the pressure on him to keep
Harry alive, to teach him very fast, and to develop a huge network
of competent witches and wizards of all ages who are supporting
Harry.
Thirdly Harry. (1) must be good news for Harry on each occasion
that he has fought Voldemort he has expected the imbalance of power
to lead to his own death. Now he knows it's not so imbalanced. (2)
is good too, something to be proud of James for (which he needs at
the moment). He knows his own birthday (3). Since Book 2 Harry has
known some of the impact of the scar, but (4) confirms that.
Dumbledore keeps telling him (5). Now, he must have spotted the fact
that Voldemort is repeatedly trying to kill him, it's happened 4
times before Book 5, so (6) and (7) don't tell him much.
Fourthly Voldemort. Remember that prior to the end of Book 5
Voldemort only knew (1), (2), and (3); though he'll probably find
out the remaining clauses next time he enters Harry's head during
Harry's dreams and has a good look around. To illustrate the
prophecy's impact, as revelation to Voldemort, I want you to imagine
that you are planning to buy a new computer. It's got a new
Operating System called `OS Omega' and your not sure if you'll be
able to understand it, so you first buy a book entitled "OS Omega
for Dummies". Here's what the book tells you:
1) OS Omega can do all you need
2) It's developed from three existing Operating Systems that you
never managed to understand
3) OS Omega is in the shops at the end of July
4) you will buy OS Omega and try to make it do loads of cool things
5) OS Omega will always have features that you don't know about
6) Either you will understand OS Omega or it will remain a mystery
7) You cannot continue to study OS Omega forever
8) OS Omega can do all you need and will be in the shops at the end
of July
Wow what an esoteric load of nonsense! Where's information about
how to find a file? Why hasn't it told me how to store my electronic
photos? What a rubbish book I'm sure you'd take it back to the
shop. Voldemort is in the same position. We are told (by Dumbledore)
that "the knowledge of how to destroy" Harry is what "he has been
seeking so assiduously since his return". I.e. Voldemort is hunting
for a book called "Killing Harry Potter for Dummies". Instead he's
told by the prophecy's additional clauses that he's failed to kill
Harry already (4), that Harry has mysterious powers (5), and that he
needs to get a move on and kill Harry (6) and (7). Wow how lame is
that? It's probably lucky Voldemort didn't get the orb for he'd have
to take it back and demanded a refund!
I haven't had a chance to trawl back through all the interesting
posts about the prophecy, so it may well be that these issues have
already been covered in full. If that's the case please please
please just point me to the relevant posts.
Cheers,
Dumbledad.
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