MWPP in all 4 Houses (was Slytherin and Sirius Black)

[kiricat2001]

No: HPFGUIDX 82142

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
 
 
> I subscribe to Four House theory. James was a Gryffindor, Sirius 
> the good Slytherin, Lupin a Ravenclaw, and Peter a Hufflepuff.  I 
> was converted  by the Sorting Hat's latest song, in 
> which it says that it always tries to unite the Houses in the face 
of 
> external foes.

> We know that Sirius's ancestor Phineas Nigellus was in 
> Slytherin and there are snake themed adornments all over 
> Grimmauld Place. Malfoy tells us that all his family have been in 
> Slytherin and he is Sirius's first cousin once removed.  Sirius 
> was labelled a blood traitor long before he joined the Order. Did 
> he get burnt off the tapestry  and have to leave home because 
> he'd switched Houses at school?

Now me:

I don't know that I'd necessarily take Draco's word about this.  His 
family allegiance is strong enough that he may already not consider 
Sirius a member of the extended family because of Sirius'attitude 
about the pure blood business. Draco may then very well say that all 
his family have been in Slytherin because Sirius, the blood traitor 
Gryffindor, is not worthy of being considered family in Draco's eyes.

But I do wonder about Sirius' sorting.  I think a case could be made 
for either Slytherin or Gryffindor.  He could have been sorted into 
Slytherin and have fought against it, adding to the bad blood between 
himself and Snape.  I can also see that being the case if he and 
James had become friends pre-Hogwarts, as James would already have 
been a lifeline out of the blood purity environment.

On the other hand, I can also see Sirius as the first Black sorted 
into Gryffindor, thus causing all sorts of consternation in his 
family and adding to the stress there.

Pippin:
> Pettigrew is the poster child for misplaced loyalty. And Hufflepuff 
> affiliation would fit with the way everyone underestimates his 
> abilities.

Me:
That's true, but this is one of the reasons I have a problem with the 
MWPP in all four houses theory.  If Peter was not in a house with 
James and Sirius, why would he have become their tag-along? What bond 
exists that would throw them together? He doesn't really seem to fit 
with them and if he was in a different house, their opportunities for 
interaction seem even less likely.  Unless there is a link between 
Peter and either or both James and Sirius that we don't yet know 
about...
 
Pippin:
> Lupin is the most bookish and learned of the Marauders. He 
> also seems a bit guilty about wishing for a Gryffindor victory at 
> Quidditch.

Me:
Remus is the other reason I have a proble with the 4 houses idea.  
Why would the other 3 notice his repeated absences if he was not in 
the same house?  Why would the other three have the level of 
interaction with him to figure out the werewolf thing and decide to 
attempt the Animagus transformation if they were only thrown together 
on the occasional basis by sometimes being in the same class?

Pippin:
> I know it seems unlikely that they could have belonged to 
> different houses, but they *did* have place to meet  - the 
> passage behind the mirror which is now blocked.

>  What would they have needed it for if they were all members of 
> the same house, and could safely discuss whatever they wanted 
> in the privacy of their dormitory?
> 
Unless there were others in their year that, for whatever reason, 
were not part of the gang and they couldn't be assured of privacy in 
their dorm. I'm still pretty ambivalent about the 4 house idea for 
MWPP, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if JKR has a trick up 
her sleeve to make it all work out.

Marianne