A litte more on the Prophecy

adsong16 gorda_ad at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 3 18:26:12 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 82200

OK, having followed the various prophecy threads for the last couple of days, 
and having gone back to previous threads on the subject, here's my 2 cents:

I think we can all agree that the Prophecy is worded in fairly ambiguous terms, 
thanks to all the dangling modifiers (he, his, him, neither, etc). This is in 
contrast to the pretty reasonable clarity of Trelawney's first prediction, which 
can't really be finnegled to fit any other explanation. 

Therefore, I think we should look for a moment somewhere other than 
semantics to explain 1) what the prophecy might mean and 2) how it may be 
played out in future books

Now, one of the key arguments surrounding the prophecy is, should we take it 
at face value like Dumbledore does? Is Harry *actually* "the one with the 
power to vanquish the Dark Lord", who will either have to kill LV or be killed 
by him, "for neither can live while the other survives"?

OK I am for the moment sidestepping the issue of the "neither", "either", and 
"other" and who they might refer to other than HP and LV, because I agree 
with all those who have pointed out that English grammar would need to be 
seriously violated for other people to be admitted into the mix (not that it can't 
happen, i just don't think it's likely).

Now, one of the first things that happen to Harry once he rejoins the WW in 
PS/SS is that he goes to get his wand, and the wand THAT CHOOSES HIM 
happens to be the brother of LV's wand. And note the wording in which this 
information is delivered to Harry:

p. 85, US paperback edition of SS:
"It is very curious indeed that you should be DESTINED for this wand when its 
brother --why , it's brother gave you that scar. [and a little later] The wand 
chooses the wizard, remember. . . . I think we must expect great things from 
you, Mr. Potter." [emphasis mine]

Now, here is a piece of the puzzle that no living person, not even DD, could 
have arranged or predicted (unless we disbelieve the canonic information 
that only the wand can choose). Harry is destined to own and use the ONLY 
wand that can save his life when in direct battle with LV's, as we see in GoF 
(we know this is the only other such wand, Mr. Ollivander says the phoenix 
(Fawkes) gave only one other feather).  No one else (Neville, Hermione, Ron, 
Ginny, DD, etc.) has been destined to have such protection and such 
advantage over LV.

It seems to me that this proves that Harry is indeed destined, as the prophecy 
tells us, to vanquish the Dark Lord. How he's going to do that, who will help 
him, and whether or not he will survive the encounter, remains to be seen.

On the other hand, I also want to join the Neville Still Has Some Part To Play 
In This gang. But that is another story...

Any comments?

Gorda







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