Lily, Petunia, Squibs, Muggles, et. al

[Fred Waldrop]

No: HPFGUIDX 82759

Fred Waldrop wrote:

I do not see Petunia having heard about dementors from Lily, James or
any of the other school kids (before Harry came to stay at her house).
As LV said in GoF, pg 651 paperback, US, "The dementors will join
us... they are our natural allies..."
So, if the dementors are LV "natral allies", and DD seems to think
they will go over to LV as soon as he ask them to, it only seems
logical that they were his followers in the "first war". And if they
were LV allies, they would not have been guarding Azkaban,  


"Iggy McSnurd" <coyoteschild at p...> wrote: message 82755
Ummm... I cited canon about where Petunia found out.  What 
other "awful boy" could she have been referring to who might have 
told Lilly about the
Dementors?
Also, it doesn't matter if they were guarding Azkaban or not.  James 
would have been even MORE likely to talk about them to Lilly if they 
were actually involved in the war itself.
I don't think that JKR would be lying to her readers about how 
Petunia found out about the Dementors.  For one thing, she doesn't 
really have any reason to.
Just my two centaurs worth.
Iggy McSnurd
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Hello all, Fred Waldrop here:

Iggy, yes, you did "cite canon", but even if something is said 
in "canon", it does not always make it so in the end. (Unless you 
still believe Sirius is a murder, Lily is a freak, Harry got his 
scare on his forehead from a car wreak, ect.)
As I see it, there are things said in the books that are true, and 
there are things in the books that are not. Even if what Petunia said 
was true, which boy *from canon* did she hear it from? I have only 
read the books, (1-5), 4 times, but I can not remember reading her 
mentioning anyone personally, just some "awful boy".
Plus, please explain "Also, it doesn't matter if they were guarding 
Azkaban or not.  James would have been even MORE likely to talk about 
them to Lilly if they were actually involved in the war itself." 
***If they were not guarding Azkaban, how would she know they are 
guarding Azkaban?!!?*** 
You are saying it does not matter what they, the dementors, were/are 
doing, Petunia would/should know about what they are doing now, 
because Lily and James would have talked about them **not** guarding 
Azkaban, so this would mean Petunia would know that the dementors are 
now guarding Azkaban. ***WHAT!!!???***
My point was if they were not guarding Azkaban while Lily and James 
were in school, how could Petunia have heard from them, L&J, that 
thet are now guarding Azkaban, considering Harry did not come to live 
with Petunia until after L&J were killed by LV, and therebye 
releasing the dementors to go to Azkaban because they were no longer 
servering LV.

Fred